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  • #31
    Originally posted by run pMc View Post
    I'm sure the rankings will change about 50 times between now and the draft, but thanks for posting them. Will be interesting to see how they change.

    Unless he does something really horrible, I think Tolzien has done enough to get himself an invite to camp as the backup QB. I'd like to see them bring Flynn back to be the competition. A full offseason, etc., will help both and should result in better QB depth next year. The loser of the Tolzien/Flynn competition then gets cut and TT finds some UDFA QB to stash/develop on the PS.

    I think TT will go BPA, which based on the rankings doesn't look like it will be a S in R1. I don't watch much college football, so I can't stump for anyone specific...and honestly, I don't really care who they are as long as they come in, play well and stay healthy.

    As for the FA's
    On the DL, I don't think Pickett(age), Jolly(past) or Wilson(ok vs.run, jag otherwise) will get a ton of interest. Neal might, but he's new to the OLB spot and he's hurt 5 days a week.
    Raji will get interest, and if he turned down 8M/yr he's probably gone or crazy. He's talented and explosive but I think TT will find a replacement in the draft. Unless he makes a huge leap in the next 8-9 months, Josh Boyd is not the answer.

    James Jones will get interest. Boykin can fill in for him, but TT will need to find someone to be the next Boykin, and down the road they'll have decisions with Jordy and Cobb.

    Finley's career might be over, at least with GB. His agent says the surgery won't prevent him from playing, but GB might say no thanks and shop elsewhere. Quarless won't get a ton of interest. People seem to think Stoneburner and Bostick have potential, but I think they'll do something here. This season is basically Bostick's chance to show something.

    Shields is going to get interest. Tramon has played two good games in a row after...well, not. I think they do something with that 9.5M salary to keep both of them around. GB seems to have a talented group of CB's, not sure how they fit the schemes (better at zone vs. man, etc.) and play together. Shields is a valuable player and they'll try to keep him. Tramon has yet to match his 2010 year, but is better than what a lot of teams trot out at CB.

    Gonna be a very interesting draft/offseason/TC next season. If I had to make a random prediction: they lose Jones, Raji, Wilson, Finley, cut Newhouse and at least one other face on the OL, cut Tramon and keep Shields. I also expect an overhaul at Safety. McMillian, Jennings and Banjo are not safe.
    As you comment on..... things will certainly change a lot over these next 5-6 months.

    All the same we have a start here on Packerrats and a beginning of some thoughts on the draft.

    A lot to be determined and foremost our draft position.

    I agree with your analysis on our DL.

    We will need another good pick at WR.

    You predict a lot of change:

    "Gonna be a very interesting draft/offseason/TC next season. If I had to make a random prediction: they lose Jones, Raji, Wilson, Finley, cut Newhouse and at least one other face on the OL, cut Tramon and keep Shields. I also expect an overhaul at Safety. McMillian, Jennings and Banjo are not safe." run pMc

    I believe the team needs a lot of change. Some moves in terms of making a real improvement. Cut the deadwood. We need a roster full of football players that really want to be Green Bay Packers. Players that are dedicated and demonstrating hunger to winning.

    GO PACKERS !
    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
    ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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    • #32
      Originally posted by run pMc View Post
      I'm sure the rankings will change about 50 times between now and the draft, but thanks for posting them. Will be interesting to see how they change.
      it will, guys that are rated as first rounders now will go in the 3rd and 4th in april and guys you haven't heard of now will be first rounders.

      but its a place to start, and if you learn about a projected 1st rounder now you might end up looking really smart come draft time when you know all there is to know about that guy we just drafted in the 5th

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      • #33
        They need to draft someone who can stay on the damn field.
        When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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        • #34
          If they drop the next two, I hope they lose out. I'd love to have a shot at either an epic haul for one of the top QBs, or to land that boy from SC.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
            Do you like this guy?





            " With his close-cropped hair, fierce forward lean and an intimidating glare that all but transmits a red aiming dot to his intended target, the 6-foot-3, 245-pound (Max) Bullough comes from the mold of the iconic middle linebackers that pop into our consciousness without even having to say their names."

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            The Bullough Legacy Continues

            Max Bullough brings the same Bullough toughness to a new generation of football.




            165 Max Bullough ILB 8 Michigan State Sr 6' - 3" and 245 lbs

            Wears Jersey NO. 40 ... a 5th Rd. Projection

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            ** in his third season as Michigan State's starting middle linebacker . . . Elected captain by his teammates for the second-straight year; is just the third Spartan under Dantonio to be named a captain at least twice .

            ** 284 career tackles in 50 games,

            ** ranks among the FBS active leaders in tackles (25th with 284)

            ** a team-high 37 consecutive starts

            ** A first-team All-Big Ten selection by the coaches and a second-team pick by the media as a junior in 2012 . . . named to the 2012 Capital One Academic All-America Second Team, as selected by the College Sports Information Directors of America, for his 3.73 GPA in finance .

            ** A Family - third-generation Spartan

            PRESEASON NOTES: Featured on preseason watch lists for the Bednarik (defensive player of the year), Butkus (nation's best linebacker) and Lombardi (nation's best lineman) Awards . . .

            named to the Nagurski Trophy (defensive player of the year), Lott IMPACT Trophy and College Football Performance Awards Linebacker Trophy Watch Lists . . .

            preseason All-America selection by Phil Steele's College Football Preview (second team) and Athlon Sports (third team) . . . '''

            rated among the nation's top NFL Draft prospects in the Class of 2014 (No. 4 inside linebacker) by CBSSports.com . . .

            ranks among the nation's top inside linebackers (No. 5) by Lindy's . . .

            preseason first-team All-Big Ten selection by Phil Steele, Athlon Sports and Lindy's.


            Comment wooodbuck27:

            I want Ted Thompson and his Draft Staff and Green Bay Packer Scouts to have one word in mind as the focus for drafting over the next few years.

            That word is TOUGHNESS !

            I want to see TT draft prospects that play TOUGH and MEAN !

            I'm aware of this:

            For incidents that occurred in the 34–30 win over the Green Bay Packers in week 3 of the 2013 season, (Vontaze) Burfict was fined a total of $31,000.[39] He had hit a defenseless receiver (James Jones) and struck an opponent in the groin (Ryan Taylor).

            So many Packer fans didn't see prudence in picking a College Prospect like the Bengals Vontaze Burfect !? The entire NFL missed on this guy who's been nothing short of sensational as an NFL player to date.

            What's his status on the Bengals Defensive Depth Chart and overall in the NFL today? He's bad ass 'really good' and leads the NFL this season in Tackles with 118 and *** that's 6 more than the number two tackler Kiko Alonzo of the Bills at 112 tackles. A whopping 22 more tackles than the #3 tackler, Demeco Ryans of the Eagles.

            Leading Tacklers in 2013:

            *** http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...true&Submit=Go

            I'm just sick of seeing TT select paper doll prospects. I want him to have an eye and mind out for tough/durable prospects on both sides of the ball moving forward.

            I'm sick of reading about just how much 'bad luck' is with Green Bay Packer players.

            Bad Luck or lacking in grit/toughness/durability.

            It's surely nothing to do with defensive players and contact.

            It's not a dance out there .... it's FUCKING NFL football. It's about mean and tough.

            Bring that back to the Green Bay Packers Ted Thompson.



            GO PACK GO !
            Yes, but not in the first round. Brad Jones will get better but I would like youth and speed at ILB. Hawk and Jones are good tacklers though.
            Thanks Ted!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by packrulz View Post
              Yes, but not in the first round. Brad Jones will get better but I would like youth and speed at ILB. Hawk and Jones are good tacklers though.


              2014 Top NFL Draft Prospects (updated 11/13/2013)

              On this ranking Bullough is ranked at #165....or late Rd. 4 early Rd. 5.

              Hawk and Jones are both playing good this season.

              GO PACK !
              ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
              ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
              ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
              ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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              • #37
                165 Max Bullough ILB 8 Michigan State Sr 6' - 3" and 245 lbs

                Wears Jersey NO. 40 ... a 5th Rd. Projection
                I'd be ok with TT taking him in R5.
                As much emphasis as they put on defense in the draft 2 years ago (Perry, Worthy, Hayward, Daniels, Manning, McMillian, etc.) I still feel like the defense needs more playmakers. TT has to address that.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                  I'd be ok with TT taking him in R5.
                  As much emphasis as they put on defense in the draft 2 years ago (Perry, Worthy, Hayward, Daniels, Manning, McMillian, etc.) I still feel like the defense needs more playmakers. TT has to address that.
                  Yes I hope that TT is thinking BPA on 'D' early and then that he opens it up.

                  BPA on both sides of the ball.

                  PACKERS !
                  ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                  ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                  ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                  ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                    If they drop the next two, I hope they lose out. I'd love to have a shot at either an epic haul for one of the top QBs, or to land that boy from SC.
                    QB in Round 1?
                    No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
                      QB in Round 1?
                      My thoughts exactly!
                      But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                      -Tim Harmston

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                      • #41
                        No, trade down when someone gets infatuated. All about the sweet haul of picks. I'd rather have the SC boy though.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                          No, trade down when someone gets infatuated. All about the sweet haul of picks. I'd rather have the SC boy though.
                          If the Packers lose out they will be 5-11. And while 9 straight losses would be the worst in the league, they still would not pick higher than 6th. So who would be picking later than that, but need to trade up to get a QB that would still be there? I mean it would be great if this pans out, but with at least Jax, TB, Hou and Min picking ahead of us and in the QB market, the stars would have to align perfectly. (Cleavland wanting to leapfrog Oakland would be good, but there has to be a QB that falls).
                          2025 Ratpickers champion.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
                            QB in Round 1?
                            If we win two more games and finish with a 7-9 record we'll pick somewhere between positions 10-14.

                            Who's there at this time?

                            Rank - Name - Position - Position Rank - School - Class - Ht. - Wt. - Proj. Rd.

                            10 - Taylor Lewan - OT - 3 - Michigan - rSr - 6-7 - 315 - 1

                            11 - C.J. Mosley - OLB - 3 - Alabama - Sr - 6-2 - 232 - 1

                            12 - Louis Nix - DT - 1 - Notre Dame - rJr - 6-2 - 345 - 1

                            13 - Mike Evans - WR - 2 -Texas A&M - rSo - 6-5 - 225 - 1

                            14 - Vic Beasley - DE - 2 - Clemson - rJr - 6-2 - 235 - 1

                            15 - Derek Carr - QB - 4 Fresno State - rSr - 6-3 - 215 - 1

                            16 - Cameron Erving - OT- 4- Florida State - rJr - 6-5 - 320 - 1

                            17 - Jace Amaro - TE -1 - Texas Tech - Jr - 6-5 - 260 - 1
                            ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                            ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                            ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                            ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                              If we win two more games and finish with a 7-9 record we'll pick somewhere between positions 10-14.

                              Who's there at this time?

                              Rank - Name - Position - Position Rank - School - Class - Ht. - Wt. - Proj. Rd.

                              10 - Taylor Lewan - OT - 3 - Michigan - rSr - 6-7 - 315 - 1

                              11 - C.J. Mosley - OLB - 3 - Alabama - Sr - 6-2 - 232 - 1

                              12 - Louis Nix - DT - 1 - Notre Dame - rJr - 6-2 - 345 - 1

                              13 - Mike Evans - WR - 2 -Texas A&M - rSo - 6-5 - 225 - 1

                              14 - Vic Beasley - DE - 2 - Clemson - rJr - 6-2 - 235 - 1

                              15 - Derek Carr - QB - 4 Fresno State - rSr - 6-3 - 215 - 1

                              16 - Cameron Erving - OT- 4- Florida State - rJr - 6-5 - 320 - 1

                              17 - Jace Amaro - TE -1 - Texas Tech - Jr - 6-5 - 260 - 1
                              if we find ourselves in a position to draft nix, then i would grab him, then let raji walk

                              the problem is, we have to make a decision on raji before the draft and if we let raji go, and can't draft nix, then we're boned because there's a big drop off between nix and anyone else that is fat enough to play nose

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                              • #45
                                qb? heck no!! impact tight end.

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