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  • Originally posted by smuggler View Post
    Safety is probably the single hardest position to evaluate, excepting possibly quarterback.
    At this point Ted should just draft CBs (he can do that in his sleep) and hope for the best.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
      it's like Matt Millen and receivers
      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        I know it's years past, but I still take issue with their characterization of Justin Harrell.
        No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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        • Originally posted by Zool View Post
          Collins combine results:
          40 Yard Dash: 4.36 seconds
          20 Yard Dash: 2.62 seconds
          10 Yard Dash: 1.61 seconds
          Bench Press: 11 reps (225 lb)
          Wonderlic: (N/A) (0-50)
          Vertical Leap: 40.0 inches
          Broad Jump: 118 inches
          20 Yd Shuttle: 4.16 seconds
          Three Cone: 6.94 seconds
          60 Yd Shuttle: (N/A) seconds

          Clinton-Dix combine results
          40 Yard Dash: *4.58 seconds
          20 Yard Dash: (N/A) seconds
          10 Yard Dash: (N/A) seconds
          Bench Press: 11 reps (225 lb)
          Wonderlic: (N/A) (0-50)
          Vertical Leap: 33.0 inches
          Broad Jump: 117 inches
          20 Yd Shuttle: 4.16 seconds
          Three Cone: 7.16 seconds
          60 Yd Shuttle: (N/A) seconds

          Clinton-Dix pro day numbers
          Junior FS Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, who could be the first defensive back drafted in May, stood on his times from the NFL Combine, but did perform positional drills for scouts. He ran a 4.58 in Indianapolis with a 33-inch vertical jump, 4.16 short shuttle and 7.16 3-cone drill.

          I miss Nick. Hope we get a guy with a brain and that top gear.

          Nick is just a freak. Look at those numbers compared to a guy like Haha. Insane how much faster and quicker he is. He was shorter at 5'11", but so what? Dude was a ball of muscle and speed. HOF type guy I think.

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          • I wonder how antsy Ted was waiting to see if Collins would be there with that second pick. He didn't trade up, I don't think.

            Or am I just musing about this with the benefit of hindsight? Did Ted see him as another promising guy with no guarantees and enough downside to make it a crapshoot?
            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

            KYPack

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            • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
              I wonder how antsy Ted was waiting to see if Collins would be there with that second pick. He didn't trade up, I don't think.

              Or am I just musing about this with the benefit of hindsight? Did Ted see him as another promising guy with no guarantees and enough downside to make it a crapshoot?
              Collins was projected as a Round 3 or 4 pick. Lot's of folks thought he was a reach at the time at 51.

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              • Originally posted by QBME View Post
                Collins was projected as a Round 3 or 4 pick. Lot's of folks thought he was a reach at the time at 51.
                There was some question about whether he would be a CB or Safety. I remember the draft position list I was using had him listed at a different position than what he was announced as when drafted. CB/S or S/CB, I don't remember which.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • Originally posted by QBME View Post
                  Collins was projected as a Round 3 or 4 pick. Lot's of folks thought he was a reach at the time at 51.
                  Absolutely, most fans thought it was a reach because he was projected to go a round or two later by the "experts". I studied Collins and actually liked the pick. However, I didn't like the first round pick. Some Tedford QB out of Cal.
                  "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                  • The board thought Thompson was out of his mind. Same thing with Jennings and Jordy.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      The board thought Thompson was out of his mind. Same thing with Jennings and Jordy.
                      Shit not me, I loved the Jennings pick at the time while everyone else was freaking out we didn't take that Chad Jackson.

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                      • I was one of those guys, Brandon. Doh!

                        But I did trust TT when I found out that he'd traded out of the first round to take some white farm boy receiver from Kansas. I shuddered, thinking of whiny Billy Schroeder, but I kept the faith.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • My gut tells me that TT drafts Odell Beckham in the first round. He reminds me of Greg Jennings.
                          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                          • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                            My gut tells me that TT drafts Odell Beckham in the first round. He reminds me of Greg Jennings.
                            More likely than my Manziel prediction from 3 weeks ago when he was the spawn of Satan and dropping.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • The knock on Collins was that he simply wasn't very bright, and he really wasn't. How he ended up though, erases all of the bonehead plays he made, or didn't make while in the midst of growing pains.

                              It took him a few seasons, but once he had enough reps and enough experience, his speed, athleticism, and physicality made him special.

                              It's convenient to forget the growing pains though... first few years, Collins was a mess out there.
                              wist

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                              • I was happy with the Jennings pick, but a little dubious of the Jordy pick. It took him a while, but he proved more than worth that selection.

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