More Banjo: vs. Eagles Aftermath

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Spoon is still pushing the Capers might be in trouble angle, but with Wilde's M3 quote (you get what you tolerate) I don't think McCarthy is going to be lopping off a coach's head.

I think its defense-> secondary specifically. Not buying Newhouse, he's an injury sub with two guys playing out of position. Though that one whiff will end up on a lot of O line teaching film about what giving up looks like.

EDIT: OK: That was just the headline writer. Bob calls it the death of the will to resist.

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McGinn Spinning Wheel of Insults this week comes up: SOFT!

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/mike-mccarthy-steamed-as-packers-soft-defense-folds-again-in-loss-to-eagles-b99139114z1-231389201.html

Weren't they just declared full of attitude and size three weeks ago?

[denverYooper]

I wouldn't think Newhouse is in trouble of getting cut, though he may get benched for Sherrod soon.

I agree that the issues he's upset about are on the defense. But it just be someone getting moved down the depth chart. Didn't they bench Jennings yesterday?

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Question for the thread: Did Capers blitz too little?

One of Spoon's arguments is that Caper's should have pressured more given that Foles is not fleet afoot and had too much time. But Capers was blitzing.

Was it enough, did it leave the secondary vulnerable (two of those long completions came against single-high safety [Burnett])? Did you want to see a Gritz Blitz (send 8 or 9 play man to man with no safety)?

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2011 all over again?

This came after the Packers had missed 59 tackles in the first eight games, an increase of 24 from the first half of last season.

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Flynn in Green Bay to work out today.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/231427861.html

[Patler]

McGinn Spinning Wheel of Insults this week comes up: SOFT!

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/mike-mccarthy-steamed-as-packers-soft-defense-folds-again-in-loss-to-eagles-b99139114z1-231389201.html

Weren't they just declared full of attitude and size three weeks ago?

That shows how little sports commentators really know, when they declare team characteristics one week, and then change them a week or two later. Talent for coaches and commentators alike is knowing when a team of certain characteristics was simply playing above their heads or had bad games. Determining their baseline is key. Packer writers don't do that, they simply go the direction the wind blows at the time. Probably most commentators do the same. Fan the flames so to speak.

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EDS and Barclay have knee injuries. Lane Taylor played Guard for Barclay at the end of the game.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/231370361.html

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i wonder if anyone at 1265 is regretting the release of woodson right about now

we still have the cap room to have kept him (i believe its at least 8 million in cap space)
we could use a second safety
we definitely need his leadership
i never saw c-wood quit during a game

[denverYooper]

Datone Jones had 2 sacks.

If you would have told me that Daniels and Jones would be getting pressure from the DL, I'd have thought the D would be much better.

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Datone Jones had 2 sacks.

If you would have told me that Daniels and Jones would be getting pressure from the DL, I'd have thought the D would be much better.

It was REALLY hit or miss. Took too long overall. And his runs out of pocket were ridiculous.

[bobblehead]

I wouldn't think Newhouse is in trouble of getting cut, though he may get benched for Sherrod soon.

I agree that the issues he's upset about are on the defense. But it just be someone getting moved down the depth chart. Didn't they bench Jennings yesterday?

I would almost guarantee that Newhouse isn't a packer next year. Guys who give up on the OL are failures...period. The number one trait in OL success is the will to win every single battle and fight to the whistle. Newhouse doesn't do this, thus he is worthless.

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i wonder if anyone at 1265 is regretting the release of woodson right about now

we still have the cap room to have kept him (i believe its at least 8 million in cap space)
we could use a second safety
we definitely need his leadership
i never saw c-wood quit during a game

C-Wood doesn't quit but his coverage could be shaky and as safety his range/speed was suspect.

I think people over-estimate the transition from CB to safety, but Hyde would be the person to move back there if they shuffle the deck.

However, after reading the articles of McCarthy's comments, I think tackling might have been the subject he was referring to. And that problem was team-wide.

[bobblehead]

Question for the thread: Did Capers blitz too little?

One of Spoon's arguments is that Caper's should have pressured more given that Foles is not fleet afoot and had too much time. But Capers was blitzing.

Was it enough, did it leave the secondary vulnerable (two of those long completions came against single-high safety [Burnett])? Did you want to see a Gritz Blitz (send 8 or 9 play man to man with no safety)?

I do think the struggles are scheme/coach oriented. Individually you see the talent flash in our players, yet we see big breakdowns consistently. I see other teams play better with bigger holes (although our rash of injuries year after year does make Capers job difficult.)

[Patler]

I would almost guarantee that Newhouse isn't a packer next year. Guys who give up on the OL are failures...period. The number one trait in OL success is the will to win every single battle and fight to the whistle. Newhouse doesn't do this, thus he is worthless.

His contract is up, I believe. I don't see the Packers making an offer to keep him, especially if Sherrod really is on the way back.