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Man - the refs suck ass across the league, the NFL doesn't want to do anything about it and nobody wants to talk about it. My guess is that everyone fears another episode of the "replacement ref" debacle, and so they just don't question it and accept the current situation as "well that's just how it is"."Everyone's born anarchist and atheist until people start lying to them" ~ wise philosopher
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It looked like Tramon was touched after recovering the fumble as he was on the ground and tangled up with the QB, so the end result was the correct call.Originally posted by ThunderDan View PostDUD:
Refs - It sure seems like every bang-bang play goes against the Packers and we have to challenge to get correct. The fumble by Foles that Tramon recovered could have been a Packers TD instead we had to challenge and got the ball at the 13 and we didn't score. It seems like we have one of those a week.2025 Ratpickers champion.
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Yeah, but I am not sure how he can miss Jones. He had two sacks and some of the only pressures.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostMcGinn also said that Daniels and Hawk were the only two in the front seven who had good games.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Actually, he didn't say Jones had a bad game. Daniels had 4 1/2 pressures. On a side note can we get a game where either Jones or Neal doesn't jump offsides? Matthews jumps offside frequently also.Originally posted by pbmax View PostYeah, but I am not sure how he can miss Jones. He had two sacks and some of the only pressures."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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The coach's have to get them off the beans.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostActually, he didn't say Jones had a bad game. Daniels had 4 1/2 pressures. On a side note can we get a game where either Jones or Neal doesn't jump offsides? Matthews jumps offside frequently also.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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The refs. Sorry I usually dont bitch about them but our WR get mugged and nothing...our CBs breathe on the WR we get a flag..Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.
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Are they? I know they are said to be, but DBs come and DBs go, yet many of the problems remain the same. Blown coverages, failures to communicate, etc. Every year there are a couple new DBs fpr these excellent coaches to work with, but it never changes.Originally posted by KYPack View PostDUDS
Perry and Whitt Jr are excellent secondary coaches, this bunch they have just isn't ball hungry. See ball, go get it. Get that big eye for the ball and pick that mfer.
Maybe they aren't as good as we have been lead to believe.
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Jordy and James Jones. Both had legitimate chances at TD catches and couldn't convert. Jordy with a drop and Jones couldn't get his foot in. They may not have been routine chances, but when you're down to your 3rd string QB, your top receivers have to step up. They didn't when it counted most.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Fuck it, I'm going after the lame and infirm.
Clay Matthews looked horrible. That's a dud, even it ain't his fault. Don't play if you can't.
Seneca Wallace pulling a groin on a play when he isn't even tackled? Double dud. Maybe he is just old, but nobody asked him to get old, that was his idea.
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KY, thanks for starting the thread.
Studs: Lacy. Everyone in the stadium knew who was getting the ball, and he still produced, taking some hellacious hits along the way.
Boykin. 13 targets, 8 catches. He's exceeded my expectations, and gives TT a plan B is James Jones leaves in FA.
Tolzien for coming in and throwing for 280. He gets dinged for having iffy footwork that IMO contributed mightily to the red zone pick. Honestly, I don't think Wallace could've played better...and he had the week to prepare.
Lang for playing Center and not botching a snap. Hard to do.
Duds: I'll cop McGinn's rating for the most part and go with everyone on defense except Daniels, Datone, and Hawk. The secondary and DL were especially bad, and Matthews was rusty and ineffective with that club. After losing the CHI game, they played even worse and lost this game as well...not the offense.
Newhouse reminded everyone why he shouldn't be a starter.
Crosby for the 2 missed FG's.
The refs didn't help matters...why not...they get a Dud rating too.
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I think it's more execution by the players than the coaching. Some teams have high round picks in the secondary and still can't stop a completion. Shields, Tramon, Jennings were FA castoffs who got coached up, Hyde is a R5 rookie, etc. There isn't a high round pick in the secondary, unless you count Burnett (3rd round). The Vikings, by comparison, have Xavier Rhodes (R1 rookie), Chris Cook (R2 pick), Harrison Smith (R1 pick, albeit injured), Josh Robinson (R3)...and they still can't stop the pass. Gotta think that's more than talent -- coaching and execution matter.Originally posted by Patler View PostAre they? I know they are said to be, but DBs come and DBs go, yet many of the problems remain the same. Blown coverages, failures to communicate, etc. Every year there are a couple new DBs fpr these excellent coaches to work with, but it never changes.
Maybe they aren't as good as we have been lead to believe.
It's a stupid cliche that I hate, but with Rodgers hurt I wonder if players are "trying to do too much", not doing their jobs and playing the scheme.
That said, it would help if they tackled better.
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I can't let this one go. The catch that Nelson made on that sidelines was nothing short of fantastic. The fact that he even came down with it was him stepping up.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostJordy and James Jones. Both had legitimate chances at TD catches and couldn't convert. Jordy with a drop and Jones couldn't get his foot in. They may not have been routine chances, but when you're down to your 3rd string QB, your top receivers have to step up. They didn't when it counted most.Originally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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