More Banjo: @ Giants Aftermath

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Twitter is all over the play calling first-half (treasonous) versus second-half (sanity).

I love the failure to recognize Tolzien's meltdown under those circumstances plus the Giants starting to ilk the clock in the 4th Quarter.

That said, more people want Capers head on a stick.

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From Packers.com

Injury update: The injuries the Packers reported after the game were to DE Johnny Jolly (groin) and CB James Nixon (knee). Both players left the game and did not return.

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Chris Jënkins @ByChrisJenkins 22m
@Justin_Malaise @DaveShreeve @PackerReport When opponents don't have to keep up w/ Rodgers TDs, no longer one-dimensional. Hurts GB defense.


Packer Report @PackerReport 21m
@ByChrisJenkins @Justin_Malaise @DaveShreeve That's a great point. Ultimate front-running team. Take lead, get INTs, extend lead.

[call_me_ishmael]

Dom has gotta go after this season if only to have a new voice in the room. I would LOVE for MM to make a call to the Lov(i)e doctor.

[Bossman641]

Did Bostick return? I noticed a lot more Quarless after the injury but can't say for sure whether Bostick played another snap.

[woodbuck27]

Did Bostick return? I noticed a lot more Quarless after the injury but can't say for sure whether Bostick played another snap.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8259/brandon-bostick

" Brandon Bostick caught one pass for 26 yards in Week 11 against the Giants.

It was the only target Bostick saw. He caught the pass over the middle and was involved in a big-time collision with Will Hill, and Hill took the worst of it.

Bostick is a big dude at 6-foot-3, 260 and remains a guy to monitor in dynasty. He's a big-time athlete."

Nov 17 - 9:41 PM

Comment woodbuck27:

To now that's the best I could come up with on Bostic.

PACKERS !

[run pMc]

Dom has gotta go after this season if only to have a new voice in the room. I would LOVE for MM to make a call to the Lov(i)e doctor.

If they do replace Capers, I think they go with someone who runs a 3-4 or some kind of hybrid defense. I like Lovie as a DC, but I thought he was a 4-3 Cover 2 guru...so I'm not sure about the fit.

[Bossman641]

There was some discussion in the game thread about the JPP pick and who was at fault. It appears JPP read the formation and saw the play coming. If you watch the play, JPP rushes upfield but doesn't even attempt to engage Bak, instead he just sorta shadows him. Bak retreats in a normal pass set, so it must not have been designed for him to attempt to cut JPP.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/green-bay-packers/0ap2000000283934/Giants-defense-INT-TD

In the huddle before the play, Pierre-Paul predicted that a quick throw to the outside was coming, and when he saw the formation he stepped back into the throwing lane on the snap rather than rush Tolzien. At 6-5, he was able to reach up, snatch the quick throw and run untouched for the score.

“I read the formation,” Pierre-Paul said, “the tight end, how he was set. And I caught the ball.”

http://www.packersnews.com/article/20131117/PKR01/311170343/Offensive-limitations-send-Packers-3rd-straight-loss

[Patler]

It seems they were well prepared for what the Packers would do on both sides of the ball. Victor cruz had this to say:

"They gave us the coverages we were looking for on specific downs and distances and we were able to take advantage of them," Cruz said.

[George Cumby]

It seems they were well prepared for what the Packers would do on both sides of the ball. Victor cruz had this to say:

So our scheme is predictable and we were out coached. Got it.

[woodbuck27]

There was some discussion in the game thread about the JPP pick and who was at fault. It appears JPP read the formation and saw the play coming. If you watch the play, JPP rushes upfield but doesn't even attempt to engage Bak, instead he just sorta shadows him. Bak retreats in a normal pass set, so it must not have been designed for him to attempt to cut JPP.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/green-bay-packers/0ap2000000283934/Giants-defense-INT-TD

http://www.packersnews.com/article/2...-straight-loss

Scott Tolzien at this stage in his development (very early) is obvious in his intentions to make a play.

[pbmax]

It seems they were well prepared for what the Packers would do on both sides of the ball. Victor cruz had this to say:

I would say that was definitely true early. But it appeared the Packers made an adjustment later in the first half that closed that off.

It all goes back to being able to execute your own scheme. How can you use a trail technique with Hyde into the middle of the field when he cannot keep pace?

[pbmax]

There was some discussion in the game thread about the JPP pick and who was at fault. It appears JPP read the formation and saw the play coming. If you watch the play, JPP rushes upfield but doesn't even attempt to engage Bak, instead he just sorta shadows him. Bak retreats in a normal pass set, so it must not have been designed for him to attempt to cut JPP.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/green-bay-packers/0ap2000000283934/Giants-defense-INT-TD

http://www.packersnews.com/article/2...-straight-loss

It makes sense because he clearly did not intend to rush. I wonder what the counter for that is?

The TE has to move out wide to block and cannot take time to read the DE/OLB. If he sits in the pass lane do you send the pass into the stands and make an alteration or do you run something to counter JPP just standing up?

I would feel worse about it (tough to do for a pick six) but Matthews did the same twice to Manning.

[MadScientist]

If they do replace Capers, I think they go with someone who runs a 3-4 or some kind of hybrid defense. I like Lovie as a DC, but I thought he was a 4-3 Cover 2 guru...so I'm not sure about the fit.

Given the results this year, I'm not sure the players fit a 3-4. The biggest reason not to is that Clay has a mega contract and OLB in a 4-3 isn't going to make the best use of his talents.

[Tony Oday]

I still like the 3-4, it has done well against the run what really hurts us is 23 yard cushions on the WRs.