More Banjo: @ Giants Aftermath

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And why is Tolzien getting another chance?

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 1h
MM: Have never seen QB hit all his big throws like that in game (Tolzien). Every big shot we called we hit them.

Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 1h
McCarthy on Tolzien hitting every big shot throw yesterday: "I have never seen a quarterback hit all his big throws like that."

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1h
McCarthy on Tolzien: Has a lot to work with. There's a lot there for a young quarterback.

Packer Report @PackerReport 1h
MM high praise with Tolzien's long-ball skills. No circus catches among the five gains of 25-plus through the air.

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He's Getting Close!

Packer Report @PackerReport 1h
MM says Sherrrod had excellent week. "Huge step" at Thurs. padded practice. Stops short of saying he's ready to play.

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 1h
MM: Barclay was delcared out Friday afternoon. I can't tell you how close he is. Sherrod had excellent week of practice. Huge step.

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JPP Pick Six Partial Explanation:

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1h
McCarthy on the pick-six. Hard learning exp for young QB. ...We weren't totally in tune with what everybody was supposed to do on that play.


Okay, now everyone guess who screwed up.

[Joemailman]

JPP Pick Six Partial Explanation:

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1h
McCarthy on the pick-six. Hard learning exp for young QB. ...We weren't totally in tune with what everybody was supposed to do on that play.


Okay, now everyone guess who screwed up.

What I took from it was that JPP was not rushing, and Tolzien failed to recognize that. Correct?

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What I took from it was that JPP was not rushing, and Tolzien failed to recognize that. Correct?

Yes, but I also sensed M3 was saying someone else should have adjusted. My money was on Bach, but could be receiver changing the angle the throw needed to take.

[Joemailman]

Yes, but I also sensed M3 was saying someone else should have adjusted. My money was on Bach, but could be receiver changing the angle the throw needed to take.

Looking at the replay, I think it's Bach. JPP actually did come upfield about 3 yards before jumping in the air. Bach could have cut him. Check out the video at 1:46. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201311...63&tab=analyze

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It makes sense because he clearly did not intend to rush. I wonder what the counter for that is?

how bout not throw the ball to the guy clearly standing there waiting for you to throw it to him?

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He had Burnett blanketed on this play.

what i see from that picture is just a total fuck up by two guys. why isn't tramon trying to cover #80 and why is burnett trying to get to 80 when he should clearly be covering 88

either both these guys just screwed up really bad on the same play, or our scheme is fucking stupid

[Patler]

He had Burnett blanketed on this play.

This is the result of an underhanded move by the Giants, and I think it should have been flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct. Knowing that both Burnett and Williams are fans of square dance, Victor Cruz came down and yelled "Swing you partner, and dosey doe..." It caused the instantaneous, instinctive reaction by Williams and Burnett that you see in the photo.

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It makes sense because he clearly did not intend to rush. I wonder what the counter for that is?

The TE has to move out wide to block and cannot take time to read the DE/OLB. If he sits in the pass lane do you send the pass into the stands and make an alteration or do you run something to counter JPP just standing up?

I would feel worse about it (tough to do for a pick six) but Matthews did the same twice to Manning.

No sure if this was notd, but NFL network was discussing that pick and noted after the game JPP noted based on the formation the Packers lined up in and his study he knew the play was coming.

That is telling

With that being said, I'm sure if JPP takes a couple steps back instead of rushing, Back is supposed to get his arms in JPP's chest and hit him. Didn't happen

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No sure if this was notd, but NFL network was discussing that pick and noted after the game JPP noted based on the formation the Packers lined up in and his study he knew the play was coming.

That is telling

With that being said, I'm sure if JPP takes a couple steps back instead of rushing, Back is supposed to get his arms in JPP's chest and hit him. Didn't happen

Yes, but Matthews did the same thing twice. Its not that hard to read if you know what to look for. Catching it is impressive.

But as this game demonstrated, its happened before. There has to be a check on it part of the play. Or the QB has to know to just heave it OOB.

[Joemailman]

what i see from that picture is just a total fuck up by two guys. why isn't tramon trying to cover #80 and why is burnett trying to get to 80 when he should clearly be covering 88

either both these guys just screwed up really bad on the same play, or our scheme is fucking stupid

Looks to me like Burnett sees 80 open and is coming up to cover him when he runs into Tramon. Hard to figure out where Tramon is going on that play.

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I am assuming Tramon either got turned around by a fake from Cruz or he bailed on the coverage reading that Maning was going to the seam route.

Burnett is a mystery unless he is looking for buried treasure.

[ThunderDan]

Yes, but Matthews did the same thing twice. Its not that hard to read if you know what to look for. Catching it is impressive.

But as this game demonstrated, its happened before. There has to be a check on it part of the play. Or the QB has to know to just heave it OOB.

MM said Tolzien checked to that play pre-snap and it was a complete mistake. MM said JPP wasn't even in a 3 point stance pre-snap so Tolzien can't check to that play unless JPP is bent over at snap.

Another issue with Arod out.

[Patler]

See following post.