More Banjo: vs. Vikings Aftermath

[woodbuck27]

FWIW, Ben Fennell of NFL Films has been working on a theory about the Packers D--that they use too many different players, making it hard for them to find any consistency.

Ben Fennell @TheXOsOfLife 36m
Quick rundown of #Packers defensive participation..21 different defensive players used for Green Bay-and thats without Shields, Jolly, Perry

Yea...maybe the Packer players can simply get into better condition.

Garner more proper pride in their ability and dedication towords playing better!?

[woodbuck27]

Ben Fennell @TheXOsOfLife 40s
#Packers most successful on 3rddown relying on cov/pass rush 1on1s. Here Daniels on edge/Neal at 3tech. Datone spying

Overall the Packers 3rd down success could hardly be called a success.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013112403/2013/REG12/vikings@packers#tab=analyze&analyze=boxscore

Packers Third Down Efficiency in the Home to Vikings game was 3/16 = 18%.

That's not good.


PACKERS !

[denverYooper]

Ben Fennell @TheXOsOfLife 8m
#Packers DT Jerel Worthy season debut yesterday..9/80 snaps. Another athletic dlineman to work in rotation but needs better technique v. run

Ben Fennell @TheXOsOfLife 1m
#Packers Datone Jones (@IAM_Dat_One)- 22/80 snaps v.MIN..17 snaps at 3tech. Primarily QB spy on 3rd down.. Athleticism kept Ponder contained

[denverYooper]

Overall the Packers 3rd down success could hardly be called a success.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013112403/2013/REG12/vikings@packers#tab=analyze&analyze=boxscore

Packers Third Down Efficiency in the Home to Vikings game was 3/16 = 18%.

That's not good.


PACKERS !

Vikings were 6/16 on 3rd down (38%).

But I think what Fennell means is that the Packers D was generally successful on 3rd downs when they had a 4 man rush and let guys try to win their one on ones... as opposed to rushing 3 and playing coverage or bringing extra rushers.

[woodbuck27]

Vikings were 6/16 on 3rd down (38%).

But I think what Fennell means is that the Packers D was generally successful on 3rd downs when they had a 4 man rush and let guys try to win their one on ones... as opposed to rushing 3 and playing coverage or bringing extra rushers.

Yes THANKS...I got that.

[pbmax]

Ben Fennell @TheXOsOfLife 8m
#Packers Brad Jones sack saved Burnett.. Lost in coverage. TE Ford wide open down seam with free safety rolling away

Are we sure that is Burnett deep?

Who is in coverage on Ford? I would expect Burnett there unless there is only ONE safety on the field and that is Hyde in coverage on Ford.

[Bossman641]

Shit, were we really 3/16 on third downs. I realized it was bad but didn't realize it was that bad.

It's been a problem ever since Rodgers last game. Last game he played, against Minn - 13/18.
Since then, 1/9 vs Chicago, 7/16 vs Philly, 2/8 at NYG, 3/16 vs Minn.
13/49 = 26.5%, which would rank last in the league

[denverYooper]

Are we sure that is Burnett deep?

Who is in coverage on Ford? I would expect Burnett there unless there is only ONE safety on the field and that is Hyde in coverage on Ford.

I don't have a DVR or Game Rewind. I'm just taking his word for it.

Funny enough, I told myself that when I changed jobs in September that I'd pay to get Game Rewind because I could afford it. But then I still couldn't bring myself to justify the purchase at this point in my life.

[denverYooper]

Ben Fennell @TheXOsOfLife 50m
#Packers SS Sean Richardson season debut, played 11/80 uneventful snaps v. MIN - all 2nd half.. Biggest safety on team - 6'2, 216lbs..

Ben Fennell @TheXOsOfLife 31m
Observations after watching #Packers defense.. the only CB that likes to be physical and use hands is Davon House. Too much soft coverage..

Ben Fennell @TheXOsOfLife 30m
And again.. TE/FB/H-Back/Swiss army knife Rhett Ellison had the game of his life.

Ben Fennell @TheXOsOfLife 27m
#Packers try to 'press w/ your eyes' too often..Unless your Revis-very difficult to master. Must get hands on & disrupt timing. WRs too good

[woodbuck27]

Are we sure that is Burnett deep?

Who is in coverage on Ford? I would expect Burnett there unless there is only ONE safety on the field and that is Hyde in coverage on Ford.

The answer in your query pbmax is in the socks:

the Brad Jones SACK was with 5:06 remaining in the 2nd Qtr. My recording is of FOX game coverage and they didn't show that play with an over the toop shot. Their camera focus was on the LOS.

Looking at the Pic...clearly :

NO. 38 CB Tramon Williams is in coverage at the Top Center of the Pic.

NO. 31 CB Davon House is laying back near the 10 yard marker at the bottom LHS of the Pic. He wears his white ankle socks high on his ankle like SS

Who is that on the LHS Center playing back on the 5 yard line? He's wearing his white ankle socks... low on his ankle. Isn't that FS M. D. Jennings? He wears his white ankle socks low on his ankles. It might also be Micah Hyde who wears his white ankle socks low on his ankle.

In any case that narrows it down:

The DB that is losing in man-man coverage with the Vikings NO. 86 or TE Chase Ford is the other safety or SS Morgan Burnett. It's my observation that he wears his white ankle socks high on his ankles. The Packer DB that is getting beat in the coverage of TE Chase Ford wears his white ankle socks high on his ankle.

So I believe your suspicion is true pbmax.

In my analysis I suspect that's SS Morgan Burnett getting beat to the inside by the Vikings TE, NO. 86 Chase Ford. Morgan Burnett was on the field defending during that Viking offensive series.


Packers !

[Zool]

Are we sure that is Burnett deep?

Who is in coverage on Ford? I would expect Burnett there unless there is only ONE safety on the field and that is Hyde in coverage on Ford.

There are dreads or a neck growth on the deep S. That's not Burnett.

[woodbuck27]

There are dreads or a neck growth on the deep S. That's not Burnett.

Eyes of an eagle.

Micah Hyde = No dreads and low white ankle socks.

M. D. Jennings = dreads and low white ankle socks.

That leaves high ankle socks and likely SS Morgan Burnett as the DB being shaken by NO. 86 ... Vikings TE Chase Ford.

Boolean algebra is winning.

[denverYooper]

Ben Fennell @TheXOsOfLife 14m
#Packers clearly dead last in kick off returns but wow - there is just some terrible blocking... Not a seam, a crease, an alley.

[woodbuck27]

Ben Fennell @TheXOsOfLife 14m
#Packers clearly dead last in kick off returns but wow - there is just some terrible blocking... Not a seam, a crease, an alley.

OK then..... we cannot stand this overall mess on ST's anymore.

Please...just fire that 'slocum' of a ST's coach.

I must be the last member of Packerrats to come out and need that to happen.

[pbmax]

Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 32m
For those demanding Capers blitz more ... RT @MNBrianHall: Per @PFF, when #Packers blitzed, Ponder was 12/15, 169 yards, TD. (135.8 rating).


Packer Report @PackerReport 22m
@jasonjwilde @MNBrianHall @PFF #Packers sent six on the Ponder deep pass over Williams to Simpson. Ponder had all day.