season over...

[Harlan Huckleby]

I would like to see the Packers treat the rest of 2013 as preseason for the 2014 team. Sit Rodgers another week, at least. Start Sherrod at RT and let him sink or swim. Play Tolzien to see if he is worth bringing back. Don't grind Lacy into hamburger, limit him to 25 snaps a game. Let Pickett go into semi-retirement. Play Worthy, Boyd and Jones on D line for better or worse.

[LEWCWA]

I wouldn't be against that.

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I would like to see the Packers treat the rest of 2013 as preseason for the 2014 team. Sit Rodgers another week, at least. Start Sherrod at RT and let him sink or swim. Play Tolzien to see if he is worth bringing back. Don't grind Lacy into hamburger, limit him to 25 snaps a game. Let Pickett go into semi-retirement. Play Worthy, Boyd and Jones on D line for better or worse.

i'm pretty sure that would be considered "giving up" and would be frowned upon by most

[TravisWilliams23]

These are the times that try men's souls.......and Packer fans who just witnessed an asswhoopin'. Is this team really THAT bad without Rodgers or is Rodgers really THAT good? I've read stories of what a great motivational coach MM is and yada yada yada but this year we keep seeing the same shit week in and week out. When's SOMEONE going to be held accountable for the piss pore play? Players, coach, GM, anyone?

[woodbuck27]

i'm pretty sure that would be considered "giving up" and would be frowned upon by most

What ...some common sense would be frowned upon here!?

MM won't change things up a lot. I'm not even sure if he has the imagination to get there.

I just hope that AR is handled exactly 100% correctly for his and our future as Packer fans that deserve to see our team play it's best.

[Upnorth]

Tolziens first game MM did a masterful job of play calling, other than that not so much.

[woodbuck27]

Jones is still playing for something $$

I hope that he gets $it$ too.

[run pMc]

i'm pretty sure that would be considered "giving up" and would be frowned upon by most

+1.
Even Jacksonville has pulled out a couple of wins lately. You don't give up and tank the season...M3 would lose the team and would be let go.
You don't play some of the young guys before they are ready...there's the risk you ruin their confidence. It's up to the player, and the coaches know that best (well, better than most fans do).

Besides, the Bears are still on the schedule. Packers better suck it up and beat them to a pulp.

[Joemailman]

You play to win at least until you are eliminated from playoffs. That won't be for a couple more weeks at least. Crazy as it may sound after what happened today, the Packers could still win this division if Rodgers comes back for the last 4 games.

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You play to win at least until you are eliminated from playoffs. That won't be for a couple more weeks at least. Crazy as it may sound after what happened today, the Packers could still win this division if Rodgers comes back for the last 4 games.

he's not coming back joe, at least not for another 2 games

[Carolina_Packer]

For those who want Capers gone, he's looking like a goner at this point.

Even though Capers never had to tackle anyone, or shed a block, or fill the correct gap, or play the correct leverage technique in coverage, he will likely pay for the regression of the defense and lose his job. The buck has to stop with someone, and you can't get rid of all the players.

It's an odd thing. There are several examples of pathetic defenses who get a new coordinator, get a couple of guys back healthy, add a few new pieces and then are competitive again. See Saints this year with Rob Ryan. A different voice, a new year, some weaker/under-performing talent replaced, some guys back 100% healthy, some new talent infused, and a new, better attitude and leadership from a new DC...could be just what is needed to create a turn-around of our defense's fortunes.

I think the D has further to go to be repaired, but I think they have some talent...just add a different voice/leadership and they might make a turn-around.

The offense just needs Rodgers and Cobb, and some good health on the o-line, and they could be back to form, which obviously helps the D.

[woodbuck27]

Even though Capers never had to tackle anyone, or shed a block, or fill the correct gap, or play the correct leverage technique in coverage, he will likely pay for the regression of the defense and lose his job. The buck has to stop with someone, and you can't get rid of all the players.

It's an odd thing. There are several examples of pathetic defenses who get a new coordinator, get a couple of guys back healthy, add a few new pieces and then are competitive again. See Saints this year with Rob Ryan. A different voice, a new year, some weaker/under-performing talent replaced, some guys back 100% healthy, some new talent infused, and a new, better attitude and leadership from a new DC...could be just what is needed to create a turn-around of our defense's fortunes.

I think the D has further to go to be repaired, but I think they have some talent...just add a different voice/leadership and they might make a turn-around.

The offense just needs Rodgers and Cobb, and some good health on the o-line, and they could be back to form, which obviously helps the D.

I agree with you. Good post.

[Rodgers12]

You play to win at least until you are eliminated from playoffs. That won't be for a couple more weeks at least. Crazy as it may sound after what happened today, the Packers could still win this division if Rodgers comes back for the last 4 games.

I like your optimism, but chances are, the Packers have dug themselves too deep a hole. 5-10-1 sure as heck looks better than, say, 7-8-1 on the draft standing.

Maybe the Packers oughta tank the season. Sometimes you have gotta take a step back to move forward. A top 10 pick in the 1st round (not to mention top 10 picks in subsequent rounds) would mean Ted Thompson might finally land that elusive shutdown corner or hotshot ILB or hard-hittin' safety or the Claymaker's sidekick. Heck, I wouldn't mind drafting a Calvin Johnson clone.

[woodbuck27]

I like your optimism, but chances are, the Packers have dug themselves too deep a hole. 5-10-1 sure as heck looks better than, say, 7-8-1 on the draft standing.

Maybe the Packers oughta tank the season. Sometimes you have gotta take a step back to move forward. A top 10 pick in the 1st round (not to mention top 10 picks in subsequent rounds) would mean Ted Thompson might finally land that elusive shutdown corner or hotshot ILB or hard-hittin' safety or the Claymaker's sidekick. Heck, I wouldn't mind drafting a Calvin Johnson clone.

We don't use that word 'Tank' do we... in Packer Nation?

As a die hard Packer fan.... don't you like your team to go ..... 'ALL IN'.


" Heck, I wouldn't mind drafting a Calvin Johnson clone. " Rodgers12

My first reaction when I read this comment was :

Does Rodgers12 have a space ship to pilot for TT? To explore the unknown ... in strange and unfamiliar places.

Otherwise ... where in the Universe would TT find a Calvin Johnson clone?

[Pugger]

Rodgers going down really exposed this team. The total ineffectiveness on offense is sickening, I don't know why. Is is game planning? Offensive line? Nelson, Jones and Boykin have played well. Lacy was looking like a OROY candidate. Shouldn't they be able to come up with a way to move the ball and score with that?

At first you don't think the loss of Rodgers affects the D, but then you look at a game like this one - if those Det turnovers result in points, the complexion of the game changes, and if the Pack wins, all is forgiven on the defensive side. We all rave about the 'big plays' they got with the turnovers, and don't worry about the inability to stop a draw on 3rd and 9.

The Pack has some serious thinking to do tomorrow. No point in bringing Rodgers back if he's not 100%. Some are saying he might as well head to the IR, and I think I agree.

This all day long.

I think Rodgers will be back for Atlanta and I hope he is. Even if he brings a spark back this team needs success soon. There is a cloud of doom over this squad and a couple of wins might be just the elixir we need. They say winning is a habit but losing can be too and we have to nip this in the bud now even tho we are not going to the playoffs.