Next Year's DC

[red]

the problem with kevin greene is that he's never coached before, like patler said

motivating and running 4 or 5 guys through their drills is much different then running the whole defense and calling all the plays

[red]

One of the head coaches that gets fired this off season that will never HC again. Leslie Frazier?

can he run the 3-4? or is he a 4-3 guy?

so, would we have to switch if we grab him? if we switch i would rather go with lovie to tell the truth

[woodbuck27]

thats what they said on one of the post game chats too

i wouldn't want that, i think the whole defensive staff should go

i do think we stick with the 3-4 though unfortunately, we're tied to clay and clay is a 3-4 guy

Hi red:

" thats what they said on one of the post game chats too "

I'm going to review that today after going out for stuff. Which chat are you referring to?

[woodbuck27]

I think it might be good to let Capers go now and let Winston Moss or Kevin Greene finish the season at DC, to see how they do, then decide at the end of the year what our options are.

That might paint MM into a corner.

I feel we go the course and move quick when we see what's available after the regular season.

Packers !

[woodbuck27]

Kevin Greene? He's been an Assistant Coach - Outside Linebackers for 4+ years, that's it. No other coaching experience. That's a lot more green (pun intended) than I want the next DC to be.

I don't think I want Moss either. I would rather have someone with a proven track record as DC, especially since MM has no background in defense.

Yes.

[NewsBruin]

Given the annual HC turnover, how long do you think Rex Ryan will last as Not An HC? I could see him being the league's most expensive DC hire next year if the Jets let him go (it only takes 2 teams to make a bidding war). He's done badass stuff with the 3-4, that much I'll give him.

[KYPack]

To switch or not to switch?

I now join the Wistian legion which says that Capers is done like yesterdays turkey.

Dom's schemes have played out for years and sharp OC's don't have much trouble countering 'em.

A new DC?

Yeah, probably from within.

We don't have much in terms of 4-3 personnel. Mike Daniels would be a decent 3 tech. But where are the other DLine players?

We would have exactly no rush ends, 7 tech guys who could put heat on the passer. Jones appears to be an OK 5 tech who has progressed during the year, and Neal can be a 5 tech or play the hybrid like he did this year.

There are far more guys who have come up short and are old or have bad contracts & will be released in the DL.

God, I'm depressing myself.

What are we gonna do?

[Cheesehead Craig]

Hope he's gone the day after the season is over.

[denverYooper]

One of the head coaches that gets fired this off season that will never HC again. Leslie Frazier?

I don't think he'll get let go, but Gus Bradley might be interesting. He ran Seattle's hybrid D, nominally a 4-3, but really used tweeners in shifting roles.

[denverYooper]

Given the annual HC turnover, how long do you think Rex Ryan will last as Not An HC? I could see him being the league's most expensive DC hire next year if the Jets let him go (it only takes 2 teams to make a bidding war). He's done badass stuff with the 3-4, that much I'll give him.

Didn't Green Bay make Dom the highest paid DC when he was hired?

[Smeefers]

Jeez, after reading through these posts, I get the feeling that a lot of people think that TT is going to completely switch gears. Yes, Capers might be gone, but I don't think it's a for gone conclusion. Slocum is still our ST coach and he's been God awful for years. What's next? Are the packers going to hit free agency hard in order to fix the problems on the OL and at Safety? Lol. Keep dreaming folks.

If, and that's a big if, we get a new DC, it's most likely going to be Winston Moss or Darren Perry.

[The Shadow]

I disagree. Clay is a football player. I don't even think he is an elite pass rusher. I think he would be just fine in a 4-3. Also, Neal and/or Perry wouldn't have any problem playing end in the 4-3, Jolly, Datone, Worthy are all guys who can play inside.

If the desire to switch back were there, we could adjust.

Agree completely.

[The Shadow]

can he run the 3-4? or is he a 4-3 guy?

so, would we have to switch if we grab him? if we switch i would rather go with lovie to tell the truth

I like this, too. Lovie is a great DC - but a poor HC. If he realizes he is not going to get a head coaching job, he might like the idea of making the team that fired him pay.

[woodbuck27]

To switch or not to switch?

I now join the Wistian legion which says that Capers is done like yesterdays turkey.

Dom's schemes have played out for years and sharp OC's don't have much trouble countering 'em.

A new DC?

Yeah, probably from within.

We don't have much in terms of 4-3 personnel. Mike Daniels would be a decent 3 tech. But where are the other DLine players?

We would have exactly no rush ends, 7 tech guys who could put heat on the passer. Jones appears to be an OK 5 tech who has progressed during the year, and Neal can be a 5 tech or play the hybrid like he did this year.

There are far more guys who have come up short and are old or have bad contracts & will be released in the DL.

God, I'm depressing myself.

What are we gonna do?

Yea ... as bad as the OL looks now I can see what we have available on the roster morphing into something special.

The DL ... not so much. The DL needs newer parts.

If they say bye to Pickett and let Raji walk. That leaves one BIG MAN... Johnny Jolly. He needs to work harder on his conditioning in the off season. He's got the heart we need to see. Too many others on 'D' not so much. That will dictate a focus on FA and drafting priority.

What's the verdict on Brad Jones?

It appears that CB Tramon Williams will be Packer history. We need another 'physically gifted' CB. Where will that guy be found?

I stil think a focus needs to be put on the Safety positionand TE as well.

The offense needs a TE like all the best teams are so fortunate to have and use with impact.

The Packers need to ensure a solid backup QB.

GO PACK GO !

[KYPack]

You are on the right track, but Al needs more time. How about Tim Lewis? Anyone know where he is?

Hot lanta, coaching the DB's.

He's twice been a DC with Pitt and the Giants. In both cases, he did some brilliant work, only to have things get incredibly ugly and Tim getting canned. Once thought to be a bright light defensively & possibly a HC, he now is an older (51) position coach. He might be in line to get canned again as Smith is having an ugly go this season in ATL.

I like the guy and wouldn't freak if he was our new DC.