Next Year's DC

[woodbuck27]

How many times has he gotten over 13 sacks in a season?

Gonna edit a bit. I think clay does EVERYTHING very well and that is his skill. He is elite in that way, but there are many better pass rushers than him.

The way he single handedly beat the option play in week 1 was incredible. He makes big plays, causing fumbles, and never quits on a play. He simply does it all, but we need one more guy like a cameron wake or someone to make him look elite in pass rush.

Yup we still don't have that other guy opposite Clay to release him more.

Clay Matthews draws too much attention and after that who's there to step up?

[Carolina_Packer]

Yup we still don't have that other guy opposite Clay to release him more.

Clay Matthews draws too much attention and after that who's there to step up?

It would seem an issue that 1) Nick Perry cannot stay healthy 2) prefers to rush and has more success rushing from the right side

Neither one of those things helps the Packers defense. It doesn't mean he can't rush from the left side, but if he's twice or more as productive rushing from the other side, and presuming (big presumption given his short history) that he can stay healthy, do you possibly move Clay if he is just as productive from either side (don't know whether he is or not).

Our pressure starts with winning first and second down and stopping the run and controlling the down and distance battle. If they keep getting gashed and have limited pass rush opportunities, then it doesn't matter where they rush from.

[Joemailman]

It would seem an issue that 1) Nick Perry cannot stay healthy 2) prefers to rush and has more success rushing from the right side

Neither one of those things helps the Packers defense. It doesn't mean he can't rush from the left side, but if he's twice or more as productive rushing from the other side, and presuming (big presumption given his short history) that he can stay healthy, do you possibly move Clay if he is just as productive from either side (don't know whether he is or not).

Our pressure starts with winning first and second down and stopping the run and controlling the down and distance battle. If they keep getting gashed and have limited pass rush opportunities, then it doesn't matter where they rush from.

If Perry is more effective from the right side, why not move Matthews? Didn't he play the left side in 2010 when they won the Super Bowl? I think Matthews can play either side with equal effectiveness.

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I thought they already moved clay to accomodate perry

[Bretsky]

I thought they already moved clay to accomodate perry

Dom Capers coming back would not surprise me at all
I'd love Horton
I'd be ok with Lovie Smith as well

[Bretsky]

If we can't fine another pro calibur safety and a pass rusher who can stay healthy opposite Mathews the DC doesn't matter much IMO

[Joemailman]

I do agree, the contract makes it difficult, but I disagree about what he does well. I think he is merely above average at rushing the passer (inferior to Kampman), but he is awesome vs. the run, pursuit, and good, not great in coverage.

Could Matthews play MLB in a 4-3? Might sound crazy to some, but he's smart, has a burst, is a sure tackler. Not sure about his coverage skills, but not every good MLB can cover like Urlacher could.

[Patler]

If we can't fine another pro calibur safety and a pass rusher who can stay healthy opposite Mathews the DC doesn't matter much IMO

Does the pass rusher opposite Matthews have to be healthy the whole season, or only those weeks that Matthews is healthy??

[Bretsky]

Does the pass rusher opposite Matthews have to be healthy the whole season, or only those weeks that Matthews is healthy??

A very good point...ya...we need Mathews to stay healthy too since right now he's our playmaker on defense
We need another one...or two

[pbmax]

I thought they already moved clay to accomodate perry

They have been switching sides but its not permanent. Its hard to track because Neal is in there as well as Mulumba but Matthews still rushes from the right quite a bit.

[cheesner]

If we can't fine another pro calibur safety and a pass rusher who can stay healthy opposite Mathews the DC doesn't matter much IMO

These players may already be on the roster. A new DC may utilize the talent we have much better.

A guy like Ryan, would be excellent. He is a motivator who's players will run through a brick wall for him. For Capers, they would step around paper mache wall - hey, don't want to stretch a hammie, ya know. As for Rex himself, he will get another HC job if he does get fired in NY - which I don't think he will.

I cringe every time I see Greene listed as a possible replacement. Does he just have lots of relatives posting on his behalf? I don't understand the desire - I would understand if our OLBs were all phenoms. We have Clay, but that is it at OLB. The rest of the lot have not stepped up into impact players. Must be based on Greene's history as a player and his fiery demeanor - but that isn't going to make him a good DC.

[Joemailman]

I am convinced the secondary coverage would be better if Tramon Williams and the Safeties would stop running into each other.

[woodbuck27]

It would seem an issue that 1) Nick Perry cannot stay healthy 2) prefers to rush and has more success rushing from the right side

Neither one of those things helps the Packers defense. It doesn't mean he can't rush from the left side, but if he's twice or more as productive rushing from the other side, and presuming (big presumption given his short history) that he can stay healthy, do you possibly move Clay if he is just as productive from either side (don't know whether he is or not).

Our pressure starts with winning first and second down and stopping the run and controlling the down and distance battle. If they keep getting gashed and have limited pass rush opportunities, then it doesn't matter where they rush from.

Their moving Clay around. He's on the LHS looking at the offense a lot in the last two games.

I'll report this:

If they don't get a pass rush going against Matt Ryan (Atlanta) this week and MM has to use either Flynn/Tolzien and I'd suggest Tolzien. The defensive scheme must take advantage of Ryan's tendency to be too exacting getting rid of the ball on passing plays. The defense must pressure Matt Ryan big time.

If that's not taken care of...we lose another game.

Matt Ryan 28 for 47 and 311 yards and 1 TD 0 Picks Vs the Bills. The Atlanta Falcons offense is now balanced again.

The Atlanta Falcons looked good Vs the Buffalo in an OT win, snapping a five game skid. The Falcons are healthy with RB Stephen Jackson running for three TD's (84 yards).RB Antone Smith scored 1 TD on one carry. They combined for 122 yards on the ground.

Tony Gonzalez getting one score and Roddy White is back to form with 10 receptions for 143 yards and 'no' scores. Look out as he'll want to be on the score sheet Vs the Packers.

The Aaron Rodgers watch will be intense this week. Will the Packers actually use him?

I'm scatchin' my head over that one.

PACKERS !

[Tony Oday]

We are third in the NFL in sacks...just saying.

[woodbuck27]

If we can't fine another pro calibur safety and a pass rusher who can stay healthy opposite Mathews the DC doesn't matter much IMO

You nailed it B.

On 'D':

DT

Rush DE or LBer ... Nick Perry looks Derek Sherrodish or injury prone and that curse isn't easily shaken.

Please TT a FS and a taller/physical CB.

Three of these as the BPA with the 1st three picks. For all that's sensible I don't want ted Thompson to trade down in this years draft. We need the best at where our picks will sit. We don't need water in our wine.

On 'O'.... TT has to secure a better option as a developmentle backup QB or go all in with Scott Tolzien and the risk that he won't develop.

Matt Flynn = NO WAY as he looks now !

TT has to get more depth on our OL.

TT has to find a strong tall physical presence at WR. That's absolutely imperitive if James Jones leaves Green Bay and he will if TT ignores his worth.

By the way...where is Ted Thompson? Any TT sightings? What's with that guy? He's a lot like BJ Raji...invisible to this packer fan.

Ted Thompson has to re-sign Sam Shields and James Jones to reduce the pressure that will be on him as a result of either or both leaving in FA.

Ted Thompson has to let go of any plans to retain BJ Raji. Simply let go of that idea. If it's the TRUTH... TT's offer of $ 8 Million $ to BJ Raji was an error in financial judgement. A big error in terms of his value to our 'D'. What he once was is gone. For whatever reason he's just lost on our DL now. BJ Raji looks terrible now. I'll be focuse on his play for the remainder of the schedule ... as I can.

PACKERS !