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  • #61
    Originally posted by Bossman641 View Post
    McMillan is a real disappointment. I had high hopes for him coming into this season and expected him to make a jump similar to Daniels. Guessing he couldn't put it together mentally.
    Yeah, add me to the list.

    I felt/hoped we'd get some guys to really make the 2-3rd year jump.

    So far, Daniels is the only one who has really come on to do that.

    "Million" not only didn't make a jump, he regressed.

    right off the team.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by red View Post
      Who said it in another thread that maybe the brains behind the drafting was really the guy that left for seattle awhile back?
      Probably you.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
        Probably you.
        No, if it was me i'd be gloating about it right now

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        • #64
          Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
          I find it unlikely. Everyone has bad drafts from time to time. If we are healthy and not playing well, then I will reconsider.
          Gotta agree with this POV. It's pretty hard to honestly judge a team that is as injured as Green Bay.

          As far as half the draft class missing... they're at the point where they have to cut 1/2 of a draft class. Out of that class, the other half looks pretty good. They also got Hayward, Daniels and Perry who look to have Pro Bowl upside if they can stay on the field. Worthy gets a pass for now because he's coming back from injury.

          This year, Lacy is a serious contender for OROY. Jones looks like he can be a difference maker. Bakh and Hyde look like solid contributors.

          You can ding him for not shoring up the middle of the D with an ILB or S. Backup QB now looks like a fiasco. But to say he's not one of the top GM's on draft day is ridiculous.
          When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Patler View Post
            Naw, Richardson is the Physical Specimen, isn't he?
            True. My comment was mostly a reflection of who I had hoped would take the starting 2nd safety job this year and from that point of view Richardson seemed a long-shot to return and perhaps limited to late season fill-in work once he did. McMillan seemed the most physically talented of the remainders.

            Frankly, I can say neither what I nor the staff thinks of him beyond his physical characteristics. He plays a mean special teams and can tackle, but I have seen so little of him in action, I have no idea what kind of safety I expect him to be.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              I was considering candidates for the position this year and had limited (in my head, unfortunately, since Mad hasn't installed the update to the vBulletin software that let's you read my mind) the candidates to Jennings, Banjo and McMillan and whoever else might have been back there in preseason vying for the starting job. From this perspective, Richardson's return seemed uncertain and his contribution unknowable. I was rooting for the best physical characteristics out of the healthy bodies.

              You are correct that Richardson is the physical freak but frankly, I can say neither what I nor the staff thinks of him beyond his physical characteristics. He plays a mean special teams and can tackle, but I have seen so little of him in action, I have no idea what kind of safety I expect him to be.
              "You are correct that Richardson is the physical freak but frankly, I can say neither what I nor the staff thinks of him beyond his physical characteristics. He plays a mean special teams and can tackle, but I have seen so little of him in action, I have no idea what kind of safety I expect him to be." ...
              Fr. pbmax above


              1. pbmax ... Did you author the above excerpt taken from your post ? **

              staff ?

              2. Are you employed by the Green bay Packers?
              Last edited by woodbuck27; 12-04-2013, 10:16 AM.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                Fr. pbmax above


                1. pbmax ... Did you author the above excerpt taken from your post ? **

                staff ?

                2. Are you employed by the Green bay Packers?
                No. But why do I need to be employed by the Packers to know that I do not know what the staff thinks about Richardson?

                I know they thought of McMillan as good in the box and as a slot CB, but were more dubious about him deep. He lost his playing time after failing to stay deep versus the Ravens.

                I know that they think Jennings has to play deep. Because of this, I know Jennings presence is a liability because he infrequently gets to deep receivers near the sidelines to provide actual help.

                I know Burnett, by sheer volume of snaps, is trusted to be deep but continually lets players get behind him. I am unsure whether he or Jennings are worse at this.

                I know Banjo can come up and tackle from deep but that he gets less playing time than Jennings, so that I know despite decent speed, he has a hole in his game the coaches are not comfortable with.

                I cannot qualify anything like this for Richardson because most of what he has done so far is special teams.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by pbmax View Post

                  I cannot qualify anything like this for Richardson because most of what he has done so far is special teams.
                  I know he's built like Aaron Rouse *shudder* but ya, that's also the extent of my knowledge.

                  He's one of the guys that the Pack saw and liked when they went to see Hayward. The Pack must like something about him, to keep a UDFA around through two injuries, did we ever get details on his neck injury?
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                  Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    No. But why do I need to be employed by the Packers to know that I do not know what the staff thinks about Richardson?

                    I know they thought of McMillan as good in the box and as a slot CB, but were more dubious about him deep. He lost his playing time after failing to stay deep versus the Ravens.

                    I know that they think Jennings has to play deep. Because of this, I know Jennings presence is a liability because he infrequently gets to deep receivers near the sidelines to provide actual help.

                    I know Burnett, by sheer volume of snaps, is trusted to be deep but continually lets players get behind him. I am unsure whether he or Jennings are worse at this.

                    I know Banjo can come up and tackle from deep but that he gets less playing time than Jennings, so that I know despite decent speed, he has a hole in his game the coaches are not comfortable with.

                    I cannot qualify anything like this for Richardson because most of what he has done so far is special teams.
                    That thing about 'Staff'. I read your post in a specific context as to how you used the word.

                    It seemed 'up close and personal'.

                    After that even if you are Packer staff. NOT inferring that but say ... hypothetically:

                    As a member of Packerrats I would be rather impressed and complimented as a member of a Packer forum that offers an outstanding viewpoint on all things Packers... NFL... football... etc.

                    As far as the rest of this post above.

                    Thanks for your input.
                    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                    ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                      That thing about 'Staff'. I read your post in a specific context as to how you used the word.

                      It seemed 'up close and personal'.

                      After that even if you are Packer staff. NOT inferring that but say ... hypothetically:

                      As a member of Packerrats I would be rather impressed and complimented as a member of a Packer forum that offers an outstanding viewpoint on all things Packers... NFL... football... etc.

                      As far as the rest of this post above.

                      Thanks for your input.
                      I could have used playing time and that probably would have reduced the confusion. Because without seeing how the coaches want him used on the field, we don't know what they think of him except the personnel department at least thought his numbers were intriguing.

                      But I wanted to distinguish between what the coaches think he can do versus what I think he can do. Its important with Richardson because I know next to nothing about him myself.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        I could have used playing time and that probably would have reduced the confusion. Because without seeing how the coaches want him used on the field, we don't know what they think of him except the personnel department at least thought his numbers were intriguing.

                        But I wanted to distinguish between what the coaches think he can do versus what I think he can do. Its important with Richardson because I know next to nothing about him myself.
                        I played a lot of sports and was in martial arts so long.

                        I know that how a person uses his/her energy means a big difference.

                        I know that when McMillian ws drafted I thought to myself ...College Program>>>longshot.

                        We thought the same way with Nick Collins in what now seems an other era ago.

                        Back to Jerron McMillian. Maybe all that energy wasn't properly focused and/or the coaching staff couldn't reach him that way?

                        He has a chance now to find a team and system that's possibly a better fit for him. As MM said...I wish him well.

                        This fact came to fruition:

                        Jerron McMillian's time was up and RE: Sean Richardson the focus can now turn more to him.

                        It may be that simple? That mere speculation.
                        ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                        ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                        ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                        ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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