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I think the games has passed him by at this point.Originally posted by Iron Mike View PostOh, man....can you imagine if the Walrus would swallow his pride and come back and coach GB??
I would rather grab the next MM, Payton or Harbaugh.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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In 2+ games, Flynn has brought them from behind for a tie, lost a game that couldn't have been won with Rodgers, and won a game. We don't know what Wallace might have done if he hadn't gotten hurt. And it hasn't all been on the QB. As we saw today, you also need to have a defense play well to win with a backup QB, which was not the case in the losses.Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post" I don't understand how people can blame the Packers' record on the backup QB's, ... " " Fritz
Any legitimate backup QB on 'a competitive Upper Level NFL team' must be capable of filing in for 3-5 games and holding down the fort and leading the team to some 'W's' while the starting QB is out.
There TT and MM failed ... they clearly failed.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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That settles it. IR rodgers and go with flynn even if we make the playoffs.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostIn 2+ games, Flynn has brought them from behind for a tie, lost a game that couldn't have been won with Rodgers, and won a game. We don't know what Wallace might have done if he hadn't gotten hurt. And it hasn't all been on the QB. As we saw today, you also need to have a defense play well to win with a backup QB, which was not the case in the losses.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Bobble is joshing Joe with a post reminiscent of the line of thinking Joe and Bobble disagree with.Originally posted by channtheman View PostPretty sure even a 2nd grader could see that Joe was not saying anything like that at all... unless you are joking around, in which case, carry on.
I'm pretty sure.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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It helped Flynn that they didn't lose EDS and shuffle the line. They wouldn't have beaten Detroit anyhow, but it mightn't have turned into the dumpster fire it did.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostIn 2+ games, Flynn has brought them from behind for a tie, lost a game that couldn't have been won with Rodgers, and won a game. We don't know what Wallace might have done if he hadn't gotten hurt. And it hasn't all been on the QB. As we saw today, you also need to have a defense play well to win with a backup QB, which was not the case in the losses.
Your post reminds me of something I was thinking about in the car this morning: if they had signed Flynn when Rodgers went down and played him after a week or 2 of prep, would they have won an extra game or 2? There's a decent chance he could have beaten the Giants or Minny.When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
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The successful franchises tend to stick with a good coach through rough patches. The perpetually crappy franchises use the coaching carousel. At some point a traditionally good coach might struggle long enough to justify a change..but it should be done with the understanding that half the coaches are failing every year. The odds are against you.Originally posted by oldbutnotdeadyet View PostWe can argue all season, and the offseason, on whether MM is a good coach or not, but one thing is true, you cannot find the NEXT great coach unless you replace the current one...
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No, it's not your job. And maybe that's a good thing.Originally posted by Rutnstrut View PostWell one it's not my job, and Raji can go, he's a useless POS. The fact that Wallace was even an option shows a major fail with this."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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I was joshing, but not sure what we usually disagree with. It was just off the cuff.Originally posted by pbmax View PostBobble is joshing Joe with a post reminiscent of the line of thinking Joe and Bobble disagree with.
I'm pretty sure.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Joe:Originally posted by Joemailman View PostIn 2+ games, Flynn has brought them from behind for a tie, lost a game that couldn't have been won with Rodgers, and won a game. We don't know what Wallace might have done if he hadn't gotten hurt. And it hasn't all been on the QB. As we saw today, you also need to have a defense play well to win with a backup QB, which was not the case in the losses.
The Packers went (without AR):
L ... L ... L ... T ... W or 1-3-1.
Great, just super..... and that win yesterday was against who?
Was that 'W' a convincing 'W' to you Joe in terms of the Backup QB position?
At that rate, in the five game stretch absent AR; and projecting that .... in a 16 game season the Packers would be:
Converting ties to a 'W' and allowing for a 'W' in the 16th game ... to be generous:
Models out to a 7 W - 9 L Season and that doesn't spell playoffs.
We would be in the same conversation in terms of strength as (maybe) St. Louis, Tennessee; Pittsburg and San Diego if fortunate. If you truly believe that Matt Flynn is the absolute response to the need as a competent backup !?
I suggest that you simply take a wait and see before you declare that as so. I don't see that as a solid option. If I'm wrong that's great.Last edited by woodbuck27; 12-09-2013, 05:11 PM.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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We play the Pittsburgh Steelers again this weekend in Lambeau Field.
Will Big Ben 'and his Steelers', be out for some revenge after losing his last Super Bowl appearance to the Green bay Packers?
We'll soon see.
As it's now come to reveal itself.
I want to give Mike McCarthy compassion for all he's had to deal with in terms of the media and the Aaron Rodgers injury and follow-up.
I believe I'm understanding it all better.
GO PACKERS ! ,,,, GO PACK GO !!** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
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Never remark on anything worthy of respect....Eh Cleft.Originally posted by mraynrand View Poststop the presses** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
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When Aaron first got hurt we still had Wallace. So instead of signing Flynn they brought Tolzien up from the PS. We only signed Flynn after Wallace was injured. When was Flynn cut by Buffalo? The day after The Injury?Originally posted by denverYooper View PostIt helped Flynn that they didn't lose EDS and shuffle the line. They wouldn't have beaten Detroit anyhow, but it mightn't have turned into the dumpster fire it did.
Your post reminds me of something I was thinking about in the car this morning: if they had signed Flynn when Rodgers went down and played him after a week or 2 of prep, would they have won an extra game or 2? There's a decent chance he could have beaten the Giants or Minny.
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