MCGINN---McMillen Wrong from the Start

[Joemailman]

WEE must wait to be sure but my guts screamed a bust when TT picked Jerron McMillian. I looked at the Program he came from and said to myself...an unlikely pick to last.

I mean the University of Maine ! They play decent hockey there. Football...?

Did you think the same thing when TT took Nick Collins from Bethune-Cookman? Or Donald Driver from Alcorn State?

[woodbuck27]

Did you think the same thing when TT took Nick Collins from Bethune-Cookman? Or Donald Driver from Alcorn State?

I was like most here and went what in hell was that about...who is that guy...when TT picked Nick Collins. Were you elated !? If you were I'd say you we're following College ball comprehensively... closely. There were other more popular picks that TT might have chosen Joe. ie Justin Tuck. Not a bad pick for the GIANTS and on the board for TT.

I was 'in fact' fine with the DD pick. I'll never forget that feel good about him... feeling. I started to pull for DD from that moment... Day Joe.

I will not adjust what I felt RE: TT and loving Jerron McMillian in the 4th round. Did that work out? No and I didn't get that feeling that it might. It's just that feeling...Joe and it comes with decades of being a sports fan. I hope you arrive there one day.

I trust that's acceptable to you?

[Carolina_Packer]

Swing...Miss...move on, develop a better eye...swing again.

[pbmax]

Did you think the same thing when TT took Nick Collins from Bethune-Cookman? Or Donald Driver from Alcorn State?

Or Darren Sharper from William and Mary?

The player matters, not the school. The success of players from smaller programs means shock on draft day means very little.

[ThunderDan]

Or Darren Sharper from William and Mary?

The player matters, not the school. The success of players from smaller programs means shock on draft day means very little.

A lot of grumbling occurred when the Pack picked Jennings from Western Michigan in the second round.

[Bretsky]

Or Darren Sharper from William and Mary?

The player matters, not the school. The success of players from smaller programs means shock on draft day means very little.

LOTS of RATS loved George Iloka and wanted him fwiw when he was passed

[pbmax]

A lot of grumbling occurred when the Pack picked Jennings from Western Michigan in the second round.

Chad Jackson!!

[ThunderDan]

Wasn't BJ Sanders a fourth rounder? Where was the McGinn article on that one?

[Badgerinmaine]

I mean the University of Maine ! They play decent hockey there. Football...?

Jack Cosgrove runs a fine Division 1 FCS program for UMaine up in Orono (though I'll admit I don't follow it extremely closely). They are a perennial power in their league, which they won this year, and had a bye in the first round of the FCS playoffs (they lost to UNH yesterday). Considering how little talent comes out of Maine high schools that can play at that level, they are darned good.
Hockey's actually been down lately, which is why they fired their hockey coach Tim Whitehead last year.

[bobblehead]

Did you think the same thing when TT took Nick Collins from Bethune-Cookman? Or Donald Driver from Alcorn State?

Or when the germans bombed pearl harbor?

[Bossman641]

Really can't believe this is an article..a GM missed on a 4th round pick? SHOCKING!! And using Jerry Angelo as an example of gauging player interest?? Haha, he was a terrible GM.

[pbmax]

Wasn't BJ Sanders a fourth rounder? Where was the McGinn article on that one?

Actually, he wrote about that near the end of Sherman's tenure as GM. Its my favorite McGinn hit piece as the personnel department leaked and laid waste to Sherman's reputation as a GM.

The article was about how he would have all the scouts report in during draft prep and then seclude himself from them as he decided what to do based largely on team needs and coach's suggestions (Torrance Marshall). McGinn thought it worked better when Hatley was there to be a bridge between sanity and Col. Kurtz, but it broke down after his death.

Just shows that Bob is all about which side you are rooting for. As a Sherman doubter, I eager to believe that article was revealed truth.


P.S. Was it Bo Pellini who suggested Torrance Marshall? If so much of his coaching career at Nebraska makes a LOT of sense now.

[pbmax]

LOTS of RATS loved George Iloka and wanted him fwiw when he was passed

That is the interesting piece of this. As a fourth rounder, Iloka is described as makes the plays that come to him. Which is an improvement over our current players who create plays for the opposition from nothing.

But it also suggests why you risk the physical talent of a more unknown player. Go the safe route and get Marquand Manuel. Go the Bethune Cookman route and get an All Pro.

[Cleft Crusty]

Actually, he wrote about that near the end of Sherman's tenure as GM. Its my favorite McGinn hit piece as the personnel department leaked and laid waste to Sherman's reputation as a GM.

The article was about how he would have all the scouts report in during draft prep and then seclude himself from them as he decided what to do based largely on team needs and coach's suggestions (Torrance Marshall). McGinn thought it worked better when Hatley was there to be a bridge between sanity and Col. Kurtz, but it broke down after his death.

Mark Hatley died in June, 2004, after Sherman's final, disastrous 2004 draft. I have advanced the theory that the results of that draft (possibly observed by Hatley in an early OTA) directly led to Hatley's demise. You could even argue that the Good Lord did Hatley a favor, preventing him from having to observe Ahmad Carroll, Joey Thomas, and Donnell Washington all playing together in Packer uniforms in an NFL game.

[pbmax]

Mark Hatley died in June, 2004, after Sherman's final, disastrous 2004 draft. I have advanced the theory that the results of that draft (possibly observed by Hatley in an early OTA) directly led to Hatley's demise. You could even argue that the Good Lord did Hatley a favor, preventing him from having to observe Ahmad Carroll, Joey Thomas, and Donnell Washington all playing together in Packer uniforms in an NFL game.

Ah, well then memory does not serve me well here. I thought Hatley was considered the lone voice of reason in McGinn's piece, but perhaps that's too generous a reading. Or at least was never borne out by subsequent events.

Was Hatley brought on pre- or post- Mike McKenzie?