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    Packers had 4 downs to score from 1 1/2 yard line. About a minute and a half left. Dallas using timeouts.

    I say you waste a down or two with QB sneaks to run down clock, make Dallas use final timeout.

    As vindication of my thinking, the talking heads on radio are saying that Dallas obviously let GB score on first down.

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    I understand the logic in all of it completely. But I say no, you can't score too soon. I want the lead first and foremost, disregard the clock and everything else.

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    • #3
      I felt that the Pack sort of milked as much clock as they could on the end of that drive. If it were a game of Madden, I would have taken a couple knees before running on 3rd down, but that type of Madden strategy rarely applies to actual NFL play.

      Plus, this particular D needed/needs to prove they can seal the deal. I felt they did that.
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      • #4
        i didn't like the throw to jones on second and 1 from the 3 or 4. i thought a run there might have gotten the first down and kept the clock running

        i didn't like all the time we left on the clock after the TD, but i don't like the idea of taking a knee and wasting a down when you need a TD yet to win. we've been stuffed before on the goal line, there was no guarantee that we score from the 2 or 1 or 2 plays

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        • #5
          You cannot risk not getting the TD in that scenario. You need all downs and can't waste them eating clock. Agree that the pass play might make more sense on 3rd or esp. 4th down.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
            Packers had 4 downs to score from 1 1/2 yard line. About a minute and a half left. Dallas using timeouts.

            I say you waste a down or two with QB sneaks to run down clock, make Dallas use final timeout.

            As vindication of my thinking, the talking heads on radio are saying that Dallas obviously let GB score on first down.
            Just like going for it on almost every 4th down is a nice theory, taking a knee or sneak to make dallas burn the last timeout is a nice theory....until they stop you 3 times and you needed that extra shot.
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            • #7
              Maybe MM didn't expect Eddie Lacy to get that TD so easily?

              To show us all that he's the next coming of Super Man.

              Eddie...he can fly.

              That was impressive. It'll make the highlight reel this week.

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                • #9
                  What the hell was that?!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by red View Post
                    i didn't like the throw to jones on second and 1 from the 3 or 4. i thought a run there might have gotten the first down and kept the clock running

                    i didn't like all the time we left on the clock after the TD, but i don't like the idea of taking a knee and wasting a down when you need a TD yet to win. we've been stuffed before on the goal line, there was no guarantee that we score from the 2 or 1 or 2 plays
                    The thing is red the Dallas 'D' doesn't contain the run well at all.

                    I felt it was prudent to take at least one knee. What would that do take about 42 seconds off the clock.

                    Then we have plenty left to score.... them not so much.

                    The thing is we must SCORE.There's a tremendous built up excitement and you make the run call and get errrr done.

                    Your 'D' has played very well in that second half.

                    You think total team win.

                    That's what we got in that second half and no Packer fan in the World (LOL...in his right mind) would have even imagined that huge comeback taking place. I'm sure happy I stayed for the ride.

                    Now it's Pittsburg and I hope it's Aaron Rodgers.

                    I'm thinking this AM it had better be. I'm sure that Aaron is stompin' at the bit like a wild stallion. MM doesn't have the parts to hold him out.

                    MM has it covered.

                    Ohh .....I forgot >>> Dr. Patrick McKenzie...He runs that show.

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                    • #11
                      You score when you can when you are losing. Let your defense man up for change and stop the opposing team.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by red View Post
                        i don't like the idea of taking a knee and wasting a down when you need a TD yet to win.
                        I didn't say take a knee. Do a QB sneak to move ball closer to goal line. I'd at least do that for one play to kill some time, and if QB sneak scores, OK.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                          I didn't say take a knee. Do a QB sneak to move ball closer to goal line. I'd at least do that for one play to kill some time, and if QB sneak scores, OK.
                          The way I see it, that's basically what we did. Instead of risking injury to noodle arm Flynn though, we just ran Lacy. Lacy just happened to score.

                          I could see an argument about the 2nd and 1 pass though.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                            Just like going for it on almost every 4th down is a nice theory, taking a knee or sneak to make dallas burn the last timeout is a nice theory....until they stop you 3 times and you needed that extra shot.
                            There is no perfect decision.

                            Let me turn it around: do you agree with Dallas's apparent decision to let the Packers to score on first down and preserve some clock?

                            I like that decision, that's their best odds, IMO. To be consistent, you have to say it was dumb.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                              There is no perfect decision.

                              Let me turn it around: do you agree with Dallas's apparent decision to let the Packers to score on first down and preserve some clock?

                              I like that decision, that's their best odds, IMO. To be consistent, you have to say it was dumb.

                              I don't think so. Our best chance to win was to score. Dallas best chance to win at that point was to let us score.

                              edit: Lact going airborne didn't necessarily look like big D let us score though. They could have, it just wasn't obvious to me.

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