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  • #61
    Originally posted by wist43 View Post
    I watched enough of the Pittsburgh game to say it was more of what I was seeing before starting taking naps every day

    2nd and 6 is NOT an automatic passing down, yet Capers acts as if it is... hate the 2-4 as a base, Dom loves it - we'll never see eye to eye on that. Watching Jones try to run around blocks with no chance of disengaging, while the RB plows thru arm tackles and DB's are bouncing off is no way to play run defense.
    But that is the essence of the conundrum. If he plays Oakie in 3-4 personnel on 2nd and 6 the other team is going deep and with the way the safeties are playing, its going to succeed.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #62
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by wist43 View Post
        I watched enough of the Pittsburgh game to say it was more of what I was seeing before starting taking naps every day

        2nd and 6 is NOT an automatic passing down, yet Capers acts as if it is... hate the 2-4 as a base, Dom loves it - we'll never see eye to eye on that. Watching Jones try to run around blocks with no chance of disengaging, while the RB plows thru arm tackles and DB's are bouncing off is no way to play run defense.
        For sure your correct.

        Give Dom a slap.
        Last edited by woodbuck27; 12-28-2013, 01:07 PM.
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        • #64
          See wist, woody agrees with you...time to reconsider.

          On another note, good to see you back. Don't watch the game sunday if stress is an issue. Start taking the walks. Take it slow but steady. You MUST increase the activity to recover.
          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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          • #65
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            But that is the essence of the conundrum. If he plays Oakie in 3-4 personnel on 2nd and 6 the other team is going deep and with the way the safeties are playing, its going to succeed.
            It seems like with Don it’s stop the run with 3 big bodies or rush the passer with 2 better pass rushers. Why not just try a happy medium, go with one big body and the 2 pass rushers? Has he done that and I just haven’t seen it?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              Nothing has really changed about this defense. They cannot play pass D in base and have trouble versus the run in nickel or dime. In a close game, that can be a problem. If Rodgers gets them a lead, it will work to their benefit.

              I think the pass coverage at corner has improved with Shields return and Williams at least putting up a fight. House failing to materialize has hurt. Which would not have mattered as much if Hayward were available.
              Funny everyone here seems down on Williams...but the opinion I'm seem most other places is that he's been an effective scrapper.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by deake View Post
                It seems like with Don it’s stop the run with 3 big bodies or rush the passer with 2 better pass rushers. Why not just try a happy medium, go with one big body and the 2 pass rushers? Has he done that and I just haven’t seen it?
                I think that is the idea with Jones and might have been with Wilson and to a lesser degree Worthy. On paper it works, but neither is ready for that role yet. So he goes beefy on run downs and has to hope Raji can provide a rush if they choose to pass.

                One problem is that Raji has been asked to stay at home and occupy his blocker. He has down so but that eliminates his best trait which is his quickness. He is not getting off blocks and perhaps is not skilled at that without his speed. He is miscast in this D right now.

                Want a scenario where Dom is not retained? Its where Ted or Mike decide Raji, Matthews and perhaps Jones must be in a different D scheme. Its not Ted's style, but that is the only way I see Dom leaving.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                  Funny everyone here seems down on Williams...but the opinion I'm seem most other places is that he's been an effective scrapper.
                  He has recovered from his injury about as well as can be expected. He has battled back from some awful outings to play better and he often seems to be the only one back there putting yup a fight besides Shields.

                  But that is a far cry from his 2009-2010 campaigns.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                    See wist, woody agrees with you...time to reconsider.

                    On another note, good to see you back. Don't watch the game sunday if stress is an issue. Start taking the walks. Take it slow but steady. You MUST increase the activity to recover.
                    Yea right ! That deserves a rebuttal. See I pay strict attention and....

                    I don't miss a lot related to Packers and football and the rest. You know why bobblehead.

                    I don't paint myself into 'homer corner. I look at everything analytically and objectively.

                    I use the good brain I was gifted with.
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      He has recovered from his injury about as well as can be expected. He has battled back from some awful outings to play better and he often seems to be the only one back there putting yup a fight besides Shields.

                      But that is a far cry from his 2009-2010 campaigns.
                      If Williams stays in control of 'his grease' he's not bad now. He's certainly trying hard.

                      PACKERS !
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                      • #71
                        The Packers @ Bears Prediction is soon coming in ... come.... Ground Hog day Feb. 02, 2014.

                        He's the 'only' one today that truly knows for sure.

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                        • #72
                          I hope all the talk about aaron not being as tough as favre hasn't led to aaron and fatboy McCarthy putting that collarbone in jeopardy...Flynn could carve that lame bears D himself and give aaron more healing time
                          Brandon Marshall, MAN...!!
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Infamous View Post
                            I hope all the talk about aaron not being as tough as favre hasn't led to aaron and fatboy McCarthy putting that collarbone in jeopardy...Flynn could carve that lame bears D himself and give aaron more healing time
                            You can bet that Aaron Rodgers was 100% ready or 'Man of Ice' Ted Thompson would have said ...NO to GO!

                            As to any comparisons to Favre and toughness. Noone at QB ever is in that conversation.

                            Favre defined the word 'tough' and NFL.
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                            • #74
                              It's the Packer defense that worries me, not the offense.

                              I feel that Raji is miscast on this defense, and I'd like to go on record as saying I'd like to see this team go to a more attacking style by the defensive linemen. You've got three guys on your line - Raji, Worthy, and Daniels - that would work well on such a defense. And probably Datone Jones, too. Fit the scheme to the talent, I say.
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