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  • Originally posted by red View Post
    i think we should all be a little worried and pissed off that m3 came out in an interview yesterday and said he "was in love with our defense"

    really?

    what is there to love about this d? the inability to stop the run? the inability to stop the pass?

    concerned would be the nicest way i could describe how i feel about our D

    and this shows m3's major flaw, he can't smell the shit from the shit pile, if we get a new d=cord or special teams coach it will only be after TT or mark murphy forces M3 to get rid of them. just like TT had to do with the bob sanders mess
    Of course Mike isn't going to step up to the podium and tell everyone his defense sucks eggs even if its true. Do you believe TT had to get Mike to can Sanders?

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    • Originally posted by Pugger View Post
      What is Raji's problem this year? Even if he's unhappy with his role on the team this is a contract year and one would think he'd be playing lights out for his next big contract but he has been mostly invisible this year. If he won't show any desire now why would anybody think he'd be any better after he gets paid?
      I don't think it's a desire thing. I'm guessing he just isn't all that good at what they're making him do. He's in rock-hardplace territory - if he rebels against the coaches for putting him in a spot where he can't shine, he looks like a malcontent, but then he doesn't look like that disruptive force from 2010. Still, scouts will know this, he knows this, and he'll be looking for that team that wants to overpay for a big body that can rush the passer from the tackle position.
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      • Originally posted by Pugger View Post
        Of course Mike isn't going to step up to the podium and tell everyone his defense sucks eggs even if its true. Do you believe TT had to get Mike to can Sanders?
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        • Originally posted by red View Post
          i think we should all be a little worried and pissed off that m3 came out in an interview yesterday and said he "was in love with our defense"
          Not worried. Some of it's necessary coach-speak. But I also think he believes it. He knows that a lot of the problems are coming from guys being dinged up or missing, so I'm certain he's talking about all the guys that remain who are giving everything they've got - which if you think about it is most of the defense. The effort is great; the ability, average. MM loves the effort.
          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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          • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
            I don't think it's a desire thing. I'm guessing he just isn't all that good at what they're making him do. He's in rock-hardplace territory - if he rebels against the coaches for putting him in a spot where he can't shine, he looks like a malcontent, but then he doesn't look like that disruptive force from 2010. Still, scouts will know this, he knows this, and he'll be looking for that team that wants to overpay for a big body that can rush the passer from the tackle position.
            I agree with this. From Raji's perspective, in a contract year, he has swallowed his desire for a monster payday and subsumed his personal agenda to the team's.

            Could he be better at this? I have no idea. His game is built on quickness and the development of technique is something I have very little info on.

            But it does get to the question that others have raised: are there too many round holes for this square hole defense? And will Capers continue to adjust or does Thompson?
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            • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
              Not worried. Some of it's necessary coach-speak. But I also think he believes it. He knows that a lot of the problems are coming from guys being dinged up or missing, so I'm certain he's talking about all the guys that remain who are giving everything they've got - which if you think about it is most of the defense. The effort is great; the ability, average. MM loves the effort.
              Yes, we must say the guys we are trotting out there are trying but IMO they don't have the ability. Most of them are better off as backups and/or ST players.

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              • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                Not worried. Some of it's necessary coach-speak. But I also think he believes it. He knows that a lot of the problems are coming from guys being dinged up or missing, so I'm certain he's talking about all the guys that remain who are giving everything they've got - which if you think about it is most of the defense. The effort is great; the ability, average. MM loves the effort.
                Your point is certainly worth more thought.
                Last edited by woodbuck27; 01-02-2014, 10:10 AM.
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                ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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                • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                  Not worried. Some of it's necessary coach-speak. But I also think he believes it. He knows that a lot of the problems are coming from guys being dinged up or missing, so I'm certain he's talking about all the guys that remain who are giving everything they've got - which if you think about it is most of the defense. The effort is great; the ability, average. MM loves the effort.
                  This. McCarthy believes not only in dancing with who he brung, he's going to be a consummate gentleman until the end of the night.

                  The other thing is that the problems on Green Bay's defense are very well known at this point and they've learned to cope with those to some extent. Their flaws are known knowns, so it will be a surprise to no one if Kaep runs for 20+ yards here or there. The trick for the Packers is to limit that to 1-2. I don't even think they're going to approach this game with the idea that the defense is going to lock down the 49ers -- they're going to try to avoid getting gashed and try to control the ball on offense.

                  In a weird way, I feel better about it than a 12-4 Packers team that comes in with an overestimated defense and gets planted like last year because their offense struggles and their game plan breaks down. This year they have no such illusions. They're going to prepare to play the whole game differently on both sides of the ball.
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                  • Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                    The other thing is that the problems on Green Bay's defense are very well known at this point and they've learned to cope with those to some extent. Their flaws are known knowns, so it will be a surprise to no one if Kaep runs for 20+ yards here or there. The trick for the Packers is to limit that to 1-2. I don't even think they're going to approach this game with the idea that the defense is going to lock down the 49ers -- they're going to try to avoid getting gashed and try to control the ball on offense.
                    I agree. I think their defensive strategy is going to be to try and keep everything in front of them, reduce the absolutely killer 20+ plays and hope someone can make a play if a ball is thrown a little off or maybe recover a loose ball. Ball control, no mistakes, efficient red-zone offense will hopefully help them put the pressure on SF.
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                    • Offense Grade A ... Defense Grade B -... ST's Grade B ... Fair Officiating ... Alert Coaching !

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                      • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                        I agree. I think their defensive strategy is going to be to try and keep everything in front of them, reduce the absolutely killer 20+ plays and hope someone can make a play if a ball is thrown a little off or maybe recover a loose ball. Ball control, no mistakes, efficient red-zone offense will hopefully help them put the pressure on SF.
                        Given M3's comments, I expect much the same on early downs to control the run and read option game and then something different on 3rd down when they expect pass.
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                        • Stubby is either with the fire Capers movement or against it, since he seems against it, fire his ass also

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                          • Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                            Stubby is either with the fire Capers movement or against it, since he seems against it, fire his ass also
                            You nor I have any idea what he is thinking regarding firing Capers. There is simply no reliable information out there to draw a conclusion.
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                            • yeah, but you don't come out and say you love the defense.

                              you say you're confident in the defense, or they better play their asses off or they're gone of something

                              saying you love the defense makes him look delusional because there hasn't been a damn think to "love" about our d in awhile

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                              • Originally posted by red View Post
                                yeah, but you don't come out and say you love the defense.

                                you say you're confident in the defense, or they better play their asses off or they're gone of something

                                saying you love the defense makes him look delusional because there hasn't been a damn think to "love" about our d in awhile
                                Every coach will handle it differently, depending on his sense of his players. Some players respond well to a public calling out while others will get disgruntled. Stubby has to know his players and not alienate them. He was pretty vocal about the defense collapsing late in games following Rodgers' injury and McMillian (cut) House (benched) and Banjo (benched) paid a price. But if you are riding an old mule, you can only whip it so much before it quits.
                                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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