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  • So did this game qualify as "clutch" or "4th Q Comeback"?

    I'll let all you math and statistic wizards crunch the numbers and refine the details. But, I'm pretty sure Rodgers has been criticized for his inability to lead a 4th quarter comeback or be "clutch" at the end of a game.

    Did Sunday's performance qualify?
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  • #2
    Didn't count...nothing will satisfy those that would like to disqualify anything Rodgers does as less than Favre. This was a Randall Cobb 4th quarter comeback because he made the read to blow by the squatting defender. Rodgers simply threw a prayer up to a wide open receiver.
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    • #3
      GB fans have been spoiled rotten since 1992. To have two guys the caliber of Favre and Rodgers the past 21 years is unbelievable.

      We've tasted what it's like without Rodgers. So enjoy the moment while you have it.

      Yeah, he was clutch AND it was a great comeback, especially completing three fourth downs in the final scoring drive.

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      • #4
        Its easy to not have to be clutch when you don't throw 3 or 4 INTs per game.
        "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
          Didn't count...nothing will satisfy those that would like to disqualify anything Rodgers does as less than Favre. This was a Randall Cobb 4th quarter comeback because he made the read to blow by the squatting defender. Rodgers simply threw a prayer up to a wide open receiver.
          That Ladies and Sirs was an outstanding 4th Qtr. comeback.

          The fifth lead change in an outstanding, in it's own way, game. It's now in the books as added history to what actually is 'the Greatest Rivalry' in the history of the NFL. All other rivalries take second fiddle to the Green Bay Packers Vs da Chicago Bears. All the other rivalries simply couldn't ever be the GREATEST.

          It's always going to be :

          The Chicago Bears Vs the Green Bay Packers. NO. 1 in NFL entertainment.

          That was an extraordinary last possession drive including 3 X 4th down conversions. An amazing pass by Aaron Rodgers to connect with an open WR Randall Cobb. If Aaron doesn't get that long pass right on the $money$...we're complaining about a lot.

          OK here goes:


          Can Aaron Rodgers get some clear credit without the Favre sarcasms?

          Do you know who made all this Brett Favre is less than or more than 'whatever' stuff:

          Posters like you.

          Will we ever simply agree on Packerrats that Favre was simply great. Allow for some distinction and a gentle comparison of Favre and Rodgers as they both have done terrific things for the Green Bay Packer Organization and Packer nation?

          Maybe just simply allow Aaron Rodgers build on his own legacy to one day entering the NFL HOF as Brett Favre surely will?

          GO PACK GO !
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          • #6
            Aaron Rodgers of the Green Bay Packers has been performing exceptionally against the Chicago Bears over his career, as he is 8-3 against the Monsters of the Midway in the regular-season and 1-0 in the postseason...


            Rodgers Is Following in the Footsteps of Starr and Favre When Playing the Bears

            By Bob Fox (Featured Columnist) on December 27, 2013

            GO Aaron and the Green Bay Packers GO !
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            • #7
              PS...screw you captain, I wanted to start this thread but was too worn out last night...my laziness cost me the glory of being the sarcastic rat.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by SkinBasket View Post
                Its easy to not have to be clutch when you don't throw 3 or 4 INTs per game.
                Truth. They wouldn't even have been in that spot if he doesn't throw 2 early INTs to take points off of the board.
                When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                  Truth. They wouldn't even have been in that spot if he doesn't throw 2 early INTs to take points off of the board.
                  I'm not going to begrudge a guy who hasn't played in two months a couple of mistakes.
                  "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                  • #10
                    I think there is something to his numbers in the 4th Quarter, but its not about clutch or leading. Most QBs with high comeback totals have bad defenses or throw themselves into trouble and then either have a run of luck at the end of the game or throw it away. You can be a 500 QB with a lot of comebacks from your own mistakes as has already been mentioned.

                    But Brady has a decent number of comebacks and he plays more like Rodgers than most other on these lists. Brady doesn't throw picks like even Peyton does.

                    I think its a combo of a bad D and McCarthys coaching approach. You get a highly tailored game plan from McCarthy at the start of the game and he doesn't make a lot of adjustments until halftime. He's stubborn and doesn't give in to constantly fiddling between drives. But if the second half adjustments don't get it done, or if the opponent gets the drop on the offense in the 2nd half, the Packers tend to play at the same level for the rest of the game.

                    It might have to do with a head coach calling his own plays. Favre did not specialize in comebacks until later in his career, well after Holmgren.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                      Truth. They wouldn't even have been in that spot if he doesn't throw 2 early INTs to take points off of the board.
                      Thinking in reverse is hard.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        I think there is something to his numbers in the 4th Quarter, but its not about clutch or leading. Most QBs with high comeback totals have bad defenses or throw themselves into trouble and then either have a run of luck at the end of the game or throw it away. You can be a 500 QB with a lot of comebacks from your own mistakes as has already been mentioned.

                        But Brady has a decent number of comebacks and he plays more like Rodgers than most other on these lists. Brady doesn't throw picks like even Peyton does.

                        I think its a combo of a bad D and McCarthys coaching approach. You get a highly tailored game plan from McCarthy at the start of the game and he doesn't make a lot of adjustments until halftime. He's stubborn and doesn't give in to constantly fiddling between drives. But if the second half adjustments don't get it done, or if the opponent gets the drop on the offense in the 2nd half, the Packers tend to play at the same level for the rest of the game.

                        It might have to do with a head coach calling his own plays. Favre did not specialize in comebacks until later in his career, well after Holmgren.
                        Yes.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CaptainKickass View Post
                          So did this game qualify as "clutch" or "4th Q Comeback"?
                          yes

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SkinBasket View Post
                            I'm not going to begrudge a guy who hasn't played in two months a couple of mistakes.
                            Yeah, me neither. I was just getting at the narratives that get constructed around 60 minute collections of plays.
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                            • #15
                              A perfect example of why comeback is the fraternal sibling of interception:

                              What Rodgers did was complete 25 of 39 passes for 318 yards and two touchdowns. He also threw two costly interceptions and easily could have had a third if Bears safety Chris Conte hadn't let the ball sail right between his arms.

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