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    Was he glad he didn't push that?
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    • #3
      Would've been a stupid, extremely stupid, decision to punt. I, for one, am glad the players hit McCarthy in the head to make him change his mind.

      4th and less than a yard, 1 TO remaining, a little over 4 minutes left, down 1. D can't stop the run. Fuck yeah, go for it, Mike Sherman, err McCarthy!

      Last time I coached football, I coached a bunch of bytes on Madden. But in a said situation, you have to go for it. If you don't convert, you want your opponent to score - preferably a fg - ASAP. Punt and the Bears have no incentive to score; priority would be to milk the clock dry.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Rodgers12 View Post
        Would've been a stupid, extremely stupid, decision to punt. I, for one, am glad the players hit McCarthy in the head to make him change his mind.

        4th and less than a yard, 1 TO remaining, a little over 4 minutes left, down 1. D can't stop the run. Fuck yeah, go for it, Mike Sherman, err McCarthy!

        Last time I coached football, I coached a bunch of bytes on Madden. But in a said situation, you have to go for it. If you don't convert, you want your opponent to score - preferably a fg - ASAP. Punt and the Bears have no incentive to score; priority would be to milk the clock dry.
        He reconsidered when the refs called for a measurement and gave the players chance to talk to him. His comments last night made it seem like he thought they were further away than the measurement showed them to be.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          He reconsidered when the refs called for a measurement and gave the players chance to talk to him. His comments last night made it seem like he thought they were further away than the measurement showed them to be.
          Btw, great awareness by A-Rod. Play clock was waning down and Taylor (I think) did not line up properly. Rodgers did not just got Taylor set, he got the ball off.

          Even if the Packers were penalized 5 yards for illegal formation or delay of game, and were facing 4th and 6, the wise move would still be to go for it. The clock was the enemy as much as the Bears were.

          How many times have we seen Bellichick go for it deep in his own territory? The guy's a genius.

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          • #6
            I actually cannot believe MM even thought about punting. I agree completely with going for it. There is very little chance we get the ball back again, and if we do, there's probably only about 60 seconds left with no timeouts.

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            • #7
              Having all three timeouts or at the least, two, especially being at what, their own 25 - 30 yard line, maybe you punt. One timeout, 4 minutes left - Bears would have just run it down their throats. Even stacking the box, I don't know if the Packers could have stopped them. Somebody or muliple players kept losing contain, Forte, I mean Matt Forte, could have easily sealed that game.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                He reconsidered when the refs called for a measurement and gave the players chance to talk to him. His comments last night made it seem like he thought they were further away than the measurement showed them to be.
                Was he not watching it as close as Packer fans were?

                There should have been no doubt that he had to go for it there.

                The way I saw it if I was him I'd have been screeming about the damn spot. Any question of not going for it and punting was out of the question that wasn't.

                All day Mike McCarthy had to make a fourth down play and NOT punt. Holy Cow that would have sucked!

                There...that's clearly an example of why I say that MM chokes up...literally frezes when under the gun and so often gets out coached in big games.

                Mike McCarthy is so fortunate to have Aaron Rodgers as his QB because without him he's not lasting in the NFL. The same goes for his boss Ted Thompson. Aaron Rodgers is their saviour.

                Aaron Rodgers needs a HC, OC, DC and GM that supports his competency/skills.

                Allows Aaron Rodgers, fortifies his chances to do more than win NFCN crowns.

                GO PACKES ...GO PACK GO !
                ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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                • #9
                  Had they punted, they would have lost that game, I firmly believe. They'd never have gotten the ball back at all.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                    Had they punted, they would have lost that game, I firmly believe. They'd never have gotten the ball back at all.
                    For a word of Devine Grace. We'll never know Fritz.
                    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                      Had they punted, they would have lost that game, I firmly believe. They'd never have gotten the ball back at all.
                      That would have been my fear but the ONLY thing this defense seems to be able to do lately is get a stop in the 4th quarter somehow. They could have loaded up against Forte and it would have been stomach churning man on man outside versus the twin towers.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                        Was he not watching it as close as Packer fans were?

                        There should have been no doubt that he had to go for it there.

                        The way I saw it if I was him I'd have been screeming about the damn spot. Any question of not going for it and punting was out of the question that wasn't.

                        All day Mike McCarthy had to make a fourth down play and NOT punt. Holy Cow that would have sucked!

                        There...that's clearly an example of why I say that MM chokes up...literally frezes when under the gun and so often gets out coached in big games.

                        Mike McCarthy is so fortunate to have Aaron Rodgers as his QB because without him he's not lasting in the NFL. The same goes for his boss Ted Thompson. Aaron Rodgers is their saviour.

                        Aaron Rodgers needs a HC, OC, DC and GM that supports his competency/skills.

                        Allows Aaron Rodgers, fortifies his chances to do more than win NFCN crowns.

                        GO PACKES ...GO PACK GO !
                        It can be easier to see through legs of officials measuring on TV. His view could have been blocked. There is a reason players gesture the actual distance to the sideline, its not easy to see. Packers were on the 22. I think the coaches cannot move past the 25 during the game, so he also could be looking at an angle.

                        Part of calling a football game is not having perfect information. Having the officials measure is a way to buy time and get some certainty. Its done all the time.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #13
                          IDK that it would have been completely stupid to punt but I think going for it was the right call simply because the defense was just taking on so much water. But when you have a Lacy or Kuhn with a line that can block and the leagues worst run D in front of you....it really shouldn't have been a hard call to make at that time.

                          This play tho is one bears fans are crying about because of the play clock. But having watched football, you see the play clock get down to 0 sec all the time. It's just a matter of when the refs look up and look back at the ball. But had they called that penalty it's 4th and 5. Then we are punting.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            It can be easier to see through legs of officials measuring on TV. His view could have been blocked. There is a reason players gesture the actual distance to the sideline, its not easy to see. Packers were on the 22. I think the coaches cannot move past the 25 during the game, so he also could be looking at an angle.

                            Part of calling a football game is not having perfect information. Having the officials measure is a way to buy time and get some certainty. Its done all the time.
                            Where was his OC? Tom Clements located?

                            Didn't Tom Clements clearly see the situation as you and I did pbmax?

                            Didn't Tom Clements communicate the need to go for it in that situation with MM?

                            Didn't MM consult with Tom Clements as a prerequsite action in that extremely important instance?
                            Last edited by woodbuck27; 12-31-2013, 09:36 AM.
                            ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                            ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                            ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                            ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                              Where was his OC? Tom Clements located?

                              Didn't Tom Clements clearly see the situation as you and I did pbmax?

                              Didn't Tom Clements communicate the need to go for it in that situation with MM?

                              Didn't MM consult with Tom Clements as a prerequsite action in that extremely important instance?
                              Coaches are in the middle of the field in a box and do not have the TV feed. They have the in stadium video.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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