Official 2014 Fire Slocum! Thread

[Patler]

I hate to always bring up the injuries, but they are 1/2 of the two-headed monster that makes life difficult for any Packer ST coach. That and the very young roster. Both are endemic problems for special teams in Green Bay. Not excuses, perhaps could find a coach better able to deal with them, but they are realities to be sure. But to be fair, I would need to careful look at the age and experience of other special teams league wide. Right now, I'm just guessing that the Packers STs are a lot younger (less experienced) and less talented due injury and roster composition.

A couple years ago I read an article about ST coaches, which basically said the NFL schemes are minimal and everyone knows them. The difference between the best ST coaches who always do well, and the others who are up and down is how quickly they can get players ready and their ability to adapt to personnel changes, because that is the life of all ST coaches. Basically, all teams change 10-15 players from season to season, and during a season, if it isn't injuries that are changing the bottom of the roster it is the GM cutting players and signing others in an attempt to get better. All ST coaches deal with a lot of personnel changes both from season to season and during the season, it's part of the nature of the job. The bulk of their units are always players on their first contracts.

I don't think Slocum has an excuse this season or any of his seasons in GB.

[pbmax]

Is there no one else who thinks it strange that the kicker is the biggest tackle threat on our special teams unit?

No, because I think the punter is even better.

Or do I mean no, its even stranger?

[woodbuck27]

I didn't think TD because Crosby is dangerous, but I did expect midfield.

It's a bit disheartening when the teams most reliable tackler is your kicker.

[bobblehead]

I hate to always bring up the injuries, but they are 1/2 of the two-headed monster that makes life difficult for any Packer ST coach. That and the very young roster. Both are endemic problems for special teams in Green Bay. Not excuses, perhaps could find a coach better able to deal with them, but they are realities to be sure. But to be fair, I would need to careful look at the age and experience of other special teams league wide. Right now, I'm just guessing that the Packers STs are a lot younger (less experienced) and less talented due injury and roster composition.

This may all be true, but this is the fire slocum thread, not the defend slocum thread.

[woodbuck27]

No, because I think the punter is even better.

Or do I mean no, its even stranger?

Then are these position men versatile.

Can either of them (both be utilized to) double down and play safety and/or ILB?

[bobblehead]

Is there no one else who thinks it strange that the kicker is the biggest tackle threat on our special teams unit?

That is actually part of slocum's scheme, so in that regard he is wildly successful.

[QBME]

An Excel spreadsheet is being particularly uncooperative this morning, and I'm getting a headache.

Fire Slocum.

[red]

its absolutely mind numbing and extremely frustration that he has not been canned yet?

there is no excuse for going into another year with slocum as the ST coach

time to face facts, M3 has no balls and will not fire anyone, as long as stubby is the HC, we're going to have an absolute joke of a special teams that continue to cost us game

[pbmax]

Golden Parachute time. Give him some free passes to the Packers Hall of Fame.

Fire Slocum!

[red]

Golden Parachute time. Give him some free passes to the Packers Hall of Fame.

then he can go see where his plaque is , in the mens bathroom inside the the hall of fame, at the bottom of a shitter

[mraynrand]

A couple years ago I read an article about ST coaches, which basically said the NFL schemes are minimal and everyone knows them. The difference between the best ST coaches who always do well, and the others who are up and down is how quickly they can get players ready and their ability to adapt to personnel changes, because that is the life of all ST coaches. Basically, all teams change 10-15 players from season to season, and during a season, if it isn't injuries that are changing the bottom of the roster it is the GM cutting players and signing others in an attempt to get better. All ST coaches deal with a lot of personnel changes both from season to season and during the season, it's part of the nature of the job. The bulk of their units are always players on their first contracts.

I don't think Slocum has an excuse this season or any of his seasons in GB.

You seem to be arguing that there is a standard level of turnover on ST. Fair enough. Yet, with more injuries, comes more turnover, no? Like Favre Lake in the fall.

[mraynrand]

This may all be true, but this is the fire slocum thread, not the defend slocum thread.

this is a better argument than Patler's

[Bretsky]

its absolutely mind numbing and extremely frustration that he has not been canned yet?

there is no excuse for going into another year with slocum as the ST coach

time to face facts, M3 has no balls and will not fire anyone, as long as stubby is the HC, we're going to have an absolute joke of a special teams that continue to cost us game

[woodbuck27]

Mike McCarthy knows Special Teams.

A kinda One-way conversation behind closed doors in Ted Thompson's private domain at 1265 Lombardi Avenue:

The conversation concerns Ted Thompson's insistence that Mike McCarthy gets rid of ST Coach Shawn Slocum:

OK this is serious Mike....Yes it gets this way sometimes.....No NO NO Ohh Teds anymore with me Mike. It's got to being ....well... just too much or... not enough (excuse me) yaa know with ...Ole Shawney.

You know what I mean.

I know ... I really do know Mikey... I love Ole Slowster too.

yea we have so much to re-call...Yaa...yaa there won't be another one like Shawney Slowster.

Yaa Yaa...we've had some decent times... OK ... I agree Mikey...really good time here in this office too... Mikey but we can't get into that stuff...well

errrr...maybe soon...naww....this is darn serious Mikey...There's a time for everything and

this is serious business.

What!?.... NO MIKE !!! It's time you faced it and canned Shawn Slocum. I can't draw it up any clearer.

I know Mike it's hard ... yea sure ... yahh yahh ................yaa ....jhessss Mike....but you've got to get this done. You know Mikey...giverrrr the Ole College try.

No NOT ..... NO Damn way Mike ... NOT another season. NOOOO ! I told you last season and the one before that and the one ...well .... you know Mikey. This has gone...what's that..ohh no you don't ...NO MIKE none of that .... No ... no crying.....

I'm what...hurting your .... feelings ... Jheeesssh Mike.

Injuries *36&11@#*&?? pingereeesss ... screw that Mike ...No screw you Mike ... now that's enough ...no no more. Insensative...Me... come onnnn Mike ... Of course I'm sensitive.

We've had that talk .....many times.

Tears...Ohh BOY! Here we go again...tears ... so .... so so many tears ....please Mikey. . . .

Get a grip ! Pleassse !

That's not working this time... Not this time Mikey.

OK...OK...take this hanky... No... No Mike ... it's OK... snot all over it ... it's OK Mike...blow it

Blow...your... nose ....and For Gauuds sake...wipe away those tears...here ... now isn't that

better... your so sensitive for a big boy Mike.

Yes ......Yes Mike ....Your still my........ "my Big Boy".

OK you've got it Mike.. There ... Mike.....that's it ...

No No NO! Mikey .... no more damn excuses.

You've got to be kiddin me. You acting like a drunken sailor now. Stop crying !!!!!!

Chin up now Mikey....Here's the good news.

I've recruited both "a new Special Teams coach and his assistant"... Here Mike check out this video. I found these two guys while on vacation in Russia, I hope your pleased:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXx19C5ZyA8

[QBME]

Happy Wednesday.

Props to Patler for:

Green Bay's coverage units were particularly brutal. Opponents averaged 26.0 yards per kickoff, the most allowed by a Packers team since 1948. Foes also averaged 13.1 yards on punt returns, the most against a Green Bay team since 1989.

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Fire Slocum.