Don't know 'bout studs, but Duds

[pbmax]

There were three things that stood out to me in why we didn't win. From a coaching standpoint I didn't like the fact we had neither Lacy nor Starks in the backfield on the three plays inside the 10. From a physical execution standpoint Hyde should have had the interception. From a mental execution standpoint Bush should have kept Kap contained on that final blitz. Hard to blame the defensive or ST coaches for this game. The defense played about as well as possible for the talent disparity (partly due to injuries). And it's always easy to nitpick playcalls. Hell, I thought Harbaugh almost ran Gore too much for how little he gained most of the night. However, to not have Lacy or Starks in the game at the end seemed like a glaring mistake.

They obviously had another package for Cobb in the backfield as they did one of the last two games where it was successful. WHY he choose to run it at goal line is beyond me. Should have throw into end zone to stop clock or score.

Would have been slightly more sensible if they had not blown the one TO Patler mentioned where Starks was misaligned, Rodgers was calling an audible, had to then redirect Starks and ran out of time. Would have fathered he snap the ball and throw it to stop the clock rather than lose TO.

I do not agree with the McCarthy is suddenly mediocre club, but he has not handled two minute situations well this year. Especially in the red zone.

[mraynrand]

If they get called for 3 subjective penalties (and many were committed and not called by both teams) this may have swung the other way.

like the PI on Nelson. Technically interference, but they let it go. Did not let the late tug by House go. But there was holding by EDS on the fourth and 2, by Bacteria, etc. etc.

[bobblehead]

Bach had an AWFUL time with Smith. At one point I demonstrated with my son how Bach was hold Smith by his shoulders, not the usual shoulder flap pad grab but an actual hug. I don't know how those two weren't called.



. Did anyone notice Datone Jones being promoted to OLB in base when Mulunba went out? Had a nice bull rush from the outside. He might not have had any idea what else to do, but that tackle went backwards pretty fast.

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To the bak point...they didn't call holding all day, and there was plenty of it to go around. They only called one PI penalty and that was rampant as well.

I laughed when I saw datone line up at OLB. I figured if wist and I were screaming for 3 DL all season, getting 4 was a bonus.

[pbmax]

If I am remembering right, SF got called for 2 (5) yard penalties. Offsides and delay of game. The delay was intentional. We got called for 3 penalties, all subjective calls. For the most part the refs really let the teams play, but when it came down to it, we got called for penalties that they didn't. The hands to the face on Bak was a no call all game long. Both calls against SF had to be called as they weren't "opinion" penalties. All of ours were, and came at bad times. Its the little things that swing a 3 point game, but anyone who thinks they outplayed us badly is mistaken. They won by 3. Could have gone either way. If they get called for 3 subjective penalties (and many were committed and not called by both teams) this may have swung the other way.

Defense did have trouble with their pass rush and getting off the field. Lotta long drives even if they stiffened to hold them to FGs.

Really needed another TO to make up for it.

There is going to be a terrific battle for O tackle next year because neither Bach nor Barclay are ready to handle top talent in pass rush. Those jobs are open I think.

By the way, noticed something about TOP and why its not as clearly an important indicator of wear and tear as it should be. TOP can lean in one teams favor but the number of plays can vary widely depending on no-huddle, hurry-up, muddle-huddle or normal huddle. Packers got some good leverage against the 49ers in 3 WR with Lacy when they went no-huddle in the middle of the game. Had the 49ers sucking wind. On the other hand, 49ers, when they huddled or gave Packers chance to sub, really did not dent the Packers condition.

If TOP can be modified with number of plays or some other metric, it would probably yield a lot better info.

[pbmax]

To the bak point...they didn't call holding all day, and there was plenty of it to go around. They only called one PI penalty and that was rampant as well.

I laughed when I saw datone line up at OLB. I figured if wist and I were screaming for 3 DL all season, getting 4 was a bonus.

If you are going to do something static, that guy can MOVE a tackle. He does not have the trouble with a bull rush that Clay and Nick can.

[bobblehead]

like the PI on Nelson. Technically interference, but they let it go. Did not let the late tug by House go. But there was holding by EDS on the fourth and 2, by Bacteria, etc. etc.

Agreed, we got away with a lot as well. My point is that with a ton of it going on, they chose to drop a flag 3 times....all on the packers.

[woodbuck27]

You guys calling for McCarthy's head are hilarious. You have been spoiled by the Packers three-decade run of success (minus a few Rhodes and Sherman years) and don't remember what a bad team looks like. Well, if you have your way, chances are you will see one in the not too distant future. I for one expect McCarthy (and Capers) to stay and just hope that TT can re-sign Shields and find a replacement for Raji, and that we finally see a healthy team next year.

Of course your right and Mike McCarthy's job security and his buddy Ted Thompson. The heads of one big happy family. Everything is always 'just fine' in Green Bay'.

MM as a top five HC. That's your position. I don't mean insult but I'm at a loss as to what that has to do with his playoff results. Your position that MM is a top five NFL coach might be rationalized as it needs to be to prove your faith in him but it won't hold water with me. That might even be a stretch that's difficult to prove.

Examine MM's post season record since the Packers won the Super Bowl. Are you impressed with his 1-3 record? I don't believe you'll respond in the affirmative.

Back to the top. We're stuck with Mike McCarthy. We're stuck with his too predictable vanilla ways. We're stuck with a man that has his play sheet jammed in his face to the point he misses the details. He sells out too often. He must not miss like PI calls that the zebra's ignore. Mike McCarthy has to rent a new set of balls or have someone inform him when he's being buggered by the Officials.

Maybe he'll think some things over in this off season and turn out a new man next season. I'll be watching for that.
Everyone deserves a second chance. In Green Bay it's a third and a fourth .... It's the status quo and happy family and losing in the playoffs.

Mike McCarthy is now 6-5 in the playoffs. In 2010 McCarthy's Packers won 4 post season games including the Super Bowl. Isolating that result Mike McCarthy is 2 wins and five loss's in the playoffs. Mike McCarthy coached Packer teams have missed the playoffs twice.

Why does that record impress anyone?

GO PACK GO !

[woodbuck27]

There were many, many plays there to be made, and time again players failed to make them.

Yes, Jones failed to make some catches that he could have, so did Nelson, and Lacy dropped a gimme with wide open spaces in front of him. Just as culpable as Jones.

Tramon Williams failed to finish on an interception a series or two before the one he had. It's playoffs, and when a play is there to be made you have to make it. Making one later on does not absolve the earlier failure. Hyde failed late, Burnett was oh so close to an interception on the TD to Davis. Close doesn't matter, when the opportunity is there, you have to take advantage. I think House had one too.

Bakhtiari got into a shouting match with Smith at the end of the 1st half, failed to hurry to the line when they were trying to hurry up, wasting a lot of time to get the play off after a short gain (26 seconds when there was only a minute left.) Then when they finally got the play off, Bakhtiari got his hands in Smith's facemask and was penalized. He needed to keep his cool. Earlier in that drive, Rodgers had to use a timeout when they couldn't get lined up correctly. With those screw-ups, they couldn't get set for good end of drive plays, and they had to settle for a FG. A TD would have been big.

All things you have to do to win playoff games. You aren't going to make all of the plays that are there to be made, but the Packers didn't make enough of them to win.

Solis observations Patler.

GO PACK GO !

[woodbuck27]

But isn't that pretty much the case with every team--they only get to the SB if the stars align right? How many teams have been consistently better than GB over the last five years? Even looking at the last three years, the best team in the NFC (SF) has only made it to the final game once, and they lost. Winning the SB is great but if it's your only metric for acceptable performance then you're going to be calling for your coach's head nine out ten years.

Memo to self.

I'll be OK tomorrow NOT and maybe not by Tuesday or Wednesday but I'll get back to where I must be as a Packer fan.

Having huge hope.

This loss yesterday simply has too much sting in it right now.

I'm like the Packer players.

It really really hurts.

I know that laying blame can't fix a thing and that's up to TT and MM as the real engine for the Packer train.

GO PACK GO !

[woodbuck27]

I think Shields was ankle. What was Malumba's injury? I think that kid could be a player.

It looked to me like an ankle but Pam Oliver reported knee injuries for Sam Shields and Mike Neil.

GO PACK GO !

[woodbuck27]

WOW it's approaching 12:30 CST (Monday 6 Jan. 2014.. and our Packer 2013 Season is officially about over and 27 members are still on Packerrats.

Impressive.

[smuggler]

87 of Kapernick's 91 yards were via the scramble. It's a passing number IMO.

[denverYooper]

If I am remembering right, SF got called for 2 (5) yard penalties. Offsides and delay of game. The delay was intentional. We got called for 3 penalties, all subjective calls. For the most part the refs really let the teams play, but when it came down to it, we got called for penalties that they didn't. The hands to the face on Bak was a no call all game long. Both calls against SF had to be called as they weren't "opinion" penalties. All of ours were, and came at bad times. Its the little things that swing a 3 point game, but anyone who thinks they outplayed us badly is mistaken. They won by 3. Could have gone either way. If they get called for 3 subjective penalties (and many were committed and not called by both teams) this may have swung the other way.

The holding was bullshit because of the way they'd been letting both teams play in the secondary. That was one of the more ticky-tack ones, and they called it. House and SF's DBs were doing much worse for most of the game.

[denverYooper]

Yup. In close games there's a whole collection of plays that can change the outcome. Just ask Chicago.

That's the way the playoffs are. Good teams playing close games, decided by a play. This game was a lot more fun than the last two duds the Packers exited the Playoffs on, even if the result was not ideal.

[pbmax]

87 of Kapernick's 91 yards were via the scramble. It's a passing number IMO.

Yeah, its an artifact of pass rush and coverage choice.