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  • #16
    Anyone trying to defend that play, just go back and watch it. He takes an inward move when Gore comes to pick him up. Then Bush decides to jump right when he gets to Gore and Gore was then literally able to pick him up and move him farther inward giving Shitburger McQB about a 50 yard cushion. I would LB has contain unless there's a guy playing wider than him which there was on the play in question.

    Bush is terrible on D. Just flat out terrible. Anyone disputing that point is just arguing for the sake of it.
    Originally posted by 3irty1
    This is museum quality stupidity.

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    • #17
      Wow, you guys know an awful lot about the play that was called. Everyone here is positive Bush's responsibilities were contain, not sacking the QB.

      I know this is crazy, I mean, Bush is utter shit right? But, well, let's just - for the sake of conversation - say that Bush actually was assignment sure there. Let's just say that his sole job was to rush the QB and get a tackle and that someone else was responsible for contain. I mean, I've seen plenty of players take an inside rush when it suited them. Who's to say in the split second he had, that Bush thought that was the best course of action? What would you guys be saying if Bush went wide and Gore pushed him out further and Kap ran into the hole that created? Or what would you say if Bush didn't rush and just sort of played spy out there and Kap had all day to pick apart the D backs?
      - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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      • #18
        I thought Mulumba dropped to spy or pick up Gore out of the backfield. I think he got caught out of position when Kap ran.

        Bush has blitzed less than a dozen times this year and he flushed Kapernick. That makes Bush the Packers second most effective pressure artist after Daniels and its best blitzer.

        He is fine. The rest of the D needs to improve around him. Perry was active and stout against the run, but even from his favored right side he got jack for pressure. Kap is terrible is a close pocket and the Packers could only get one guy close.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Smeefers View Post
          Wow, you guys know an awful lot about the play that was called. Everyone here is positive Bush's responsibilities were contain, not sacking the QB.

          I know this is crazy, I mean, Bush is utter shit right? But, well, let's just - for the sake of conversation - say that Bush actually was assignment sure there. Let's just say that his sole job was to rush the QB and get a tackle and that someone else was responsible for contain. I mean, I've seen plenty of players take an inside rush when it suited them. Who's to say in the split second he had, that Bush thought that was the best course of action? What would you guys be saying if Bush went wide and Gore pushed him out further and Kap ran into the hole that created? Or what would you say if Bush didn't rush and just sort of played spy out there and Kap had all day to pick apart the D backs?
          Or better yet, he plays smart and solid instead of trying to be the hero? He takes on the block, holds his position, and forces Kap to step up instead of running wide?

          Maybe his job was to run in as fast as possible and then jump, but I doubt it. I'm guessing he was trying to win the game on 1 play. He's a try hard guy who was never very smart.
          Originally posted by 3irty1
          This is museum quality stupidity.

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          • #20
            My initial reaction was that he forced Kap to pull the ball down and scramble. I didn't see a whole lot of other pass rushers doing that. I'd like to see if anyone associated with the Packers team (meaning defensive coaches) comes out and says whether or not he had contain responsibilities. I may be wrong but when teams send d-backs I don't recall them generally having that responsibility.
            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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            • #21
              that play reminded me of walden last year, crashing inside time after time and letting Kap run wild

              i thought we fixed that problem. guess not

              i still would like to know who datone jones was talking about when he said some players got selfish and it hurt the team

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              • #22
                Originally posted by red View Post
                that play reminded me of walden last year, crashing inside time after time and letting Kap run wild

                i thought we fixed that problem. guess not

                i still would like to know who datone jones was talking about when he said some players got selfish and it hurt the team
                Interesting. Did he say that in postgame interviews?
                When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                  Interesting. Did he say that in postgame interviews?
                  datone said that when he was in the radio booth after the game

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by red View Post
                    that play reminded me of walden last year, crashing inside time after time and letting Kap run wild

                    i thought we fixed that problem. guess not

                    i still would like to know who datone jones was talking about when he said some players got selfish and it hurt the team
                    Except Walden is an OLB, with different responsibilities, and it's been discussed to death that on plays like those, someone else had the responsibility
                    to scrape or keep outside contain. So the question remains whether Bush abandoned his contain responsibilities or not.
                    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                    • #25
                      From McGinn's column: Bush "My job is the back" McGinn: "Bush's job is two-fold: harass if not sack Kaepernick, and not permit him to scramble around his end."

                      So it's Bush's responsibility. I don't like the design, but mostly just because it didn't work. UNSOUND!!
                      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                      • #26
                        Yeah, didn't like that he drifted inside, but he was trying to get to CK or bat down the throw. I'll give Bush credit for admittting his mistake -- he bit on the pumpfake and there was no contain. That's a risky blitz scheme.
                        That play was important but not as big as Hyde dropping the INT.

                        I honestly don't have high expectations for Bush as a CB, and he's more or less met them. Overall I don't think he played poorly at CB this year, but I'm assuming he was in there and not purely a ST ace because of injuries.

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                        • #27
                          Ace!
                          "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by SkinBasket View Post
                            Ace!

                            42,000,000 people saw Bush lose contain
                            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                              42,000,000 people saw Bush lose contain
                              bush didn't have 'contain'. he was blitzing. if told to contain he would have. aikman was wrong in his assessment.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by gbgary View Post
                                bush didn't have 'contain'. he was blitzing. if told to contain he would have. aikman was wrong in his assessment.
                                See McGinn article. Bush admitted he had contain responsibility; McGinn reported the same.
                                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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