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  • #16
    Originally posted by Guiness View Post
    Stories coming out that Shields injury was just a bone bruise, no MCL damage or anything else.

    I know the Packers like to be careful, but he sure as hell could've come back to the game and might've made a big difference
    thats what i'm thinking

    could a quality staff had been able to tell the difference between ligament damage and a bone bruise?

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    • #17
      " Cornerback Sam Shields said his agent has talked with the Packers about a contract extension late this season but for now doesn’t see a deal coming.

      “Yeah, they have (been negotiating) a little bit,” Shields said. “But something we’re not agreeing with. Things happen like that. There’s still some negotiation going on.” ..."
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      • #18
        The story was that they tried to sign him to a longer term deal last year, but they couldn't agree on the terms, so the Packers tendered him. Now the article about this year. It seems they have been negotiating to one extent or another for two years, but haven't accomplished anything. I don't expect a big change .

        I'm a little on the fence about spending a lot of money to extend Shields. Very good player, but has missed games every year with injuries (11 missed over 4 years); then they lose him Sunday. In the end, you have to think about that, too. The same issue will come up with Bulaga when his contract is up.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by red View Post
          thats what i'm thinking

          could a quality staff had been able to tell the difference between ligament damage and a bone bruise?
          I always find it odd that you will see some guy running off the field or into the locker room never to be seen again. Could he have played?
          C.H.U.D.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Freak Out View Post
            I always find it odd that you will see some guy running off the field or into the locker room never to be seen again. Could he have played?
            Hookers in the locker room??

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            • #21
              Could be...but it was warm as well.
              C.H.U.D.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                The story was that they tried to sign him to a longer term deal last year, but they couldn't agree on the terms, so the Packers tendered him. Now the article about this year. It seems they have been negotiating to one extent or another for two years, but haven't accomplished anything. I don't expect a big change .

                I'm a little on the fence about spending a lot of money to extend Shields. Very good player, but has missed games every year with injuries (11 missed over 4 years); then they lose him Sunday. In the end, you have to think about that, too. The same issue will come up with Bulaga when his contract is up.
                It would not be TT's M.O. to let a good, young player escape in free agency. Besides, on this team missing 11 games in 4 years makes you an iron man.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Patler View Post
                  The story was that they tried to sign him to a longer term deal last year, but they couldn't agree on the terms, so the Packers tendered him. Now the article about this year. It seems they have been negotiating to one extent or another for two years, but haven't accomplished anything. I don't expect a big change .

                  I'm a little on the fence about spending a lot of money to extend Shields. Very good player, but has missed games every year with injuries (11 missed over 4 years); then they lose him Sunday. In the end, you have to think about that, too. The same issue will come up with Bulaga when his contract is up.
                  This is football. Just about everyone (save perhaps kickers) can and does get injured over the course of 4 years for some number of games. Especially on the Packers. As long as the missed games aren't really high or the injury isn't chronic, you just have to live with it.

                  I really hope they can reach a fair deal with Shields. They really need a good CB who is young enough to start for 5+ more years to be locked up.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
                    This is football. Just about everyone (save perhaps kickers) can and does get injured over the course of 4 years for some number of games. Especially on the Packers. As long as the missed games aren't really high or the injury isn't chronic, you just have to live with it.

                    I really hope they can reach a fair deal with Shields. They really need a good CB who is young enough to start for 5+ more years to be locked up.


                    OR



                    These shoes are walking !



                    I'm listening for $more$ Teddy !?? Show me the $$$$ money$$$$ Teddy. ... Sam Shields and his agent.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                      TT ( Russ Ball) doesn't negotiate. He's too arrogant for such.

                      Time 'has been up for too long', may be the assessment for anyone following this closely. For many Packer fans that's the all too obvious and inevitable outcome.

                      It certainly appears to me that Sam Shields is out of Green Bay ASAP. Something has happened between him and his agent and the Packer negotiator that has steered Sam Shields in this now certain direction.

                      Isn't it this?

                      Sam Shields (size aside) is a valuable CB and the Packers failed to offer him a contract that's commiserate with his obvious talent. That man is likely feeling insulted.

                      Maybe it's something more strictly personal? He needs to leave Green Bay.

                      His injury yesterday won't deter this result. Sam Shields is as good as gone. That's my analysis.

                      Please don't kill the messenger.
                      Only if some other team commiserates with him in his injured state.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by hoosier View Post
                        Only if some other team commiserates with him in his injured state.
                        Sam Shields will be up to speed in time hoosier.

                        His injury sure hurt us yesterday as that game exactly went from his exit.

                        Ted Thompson better have his eyes open to that fact.

                        It's not too late but dangerously close to getting there. NFL players want to be recognized and for the short time they have as NFL players that is generally translated in terms of their contracts.

                        Ted Thompson may have already slammed the door on Sam Shields in Green Bay. Ted Thompson again has demonstrated tow of his most common traits:

                        Procrastination and uncommon reserve.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Patler View Post
                          I'm a little on the fence about spending a lot of money to extend Shields. Very good player, but has missed games every year with injuries (11 missed over 4 years); then they lose him Sunday.
                          Injury Prone!
                          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                            Injury Prone!
                            Therefore we get a Russ Ball (Ted Thompson) deflated offer to Sam Shields.

                            All is again justified. or

                            All is now worse with the Packers secondary. No need of a ? mark there.

                            Teddy will find another CB to replace Sam Shields in some really small College.

                            Someone with more gratitude than Sam Shields may be 'in fact' demonstrating.
                            Last edited by woodbuck27; 01-06-2014, 03:07 PM.
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                            ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                            ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
                              This is football. Just about everyone (save perhaps kickers) can and does get injured over the course of 4 years for some number of games.
                              Injury Prone!
                              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                                The story was that they tried to sign him to a longer term deal last year, but they couldn't agree on the terms, so the Packers tendered him. Now the article about this year. It seems they have been negotiating to one extent or another for two years, but haven't accomplished anything. I don't expect a big change .

                                I'm a little on the fence about spending a lot of money to extend Shields. Very good player, but has missed games every year with injuries (11 missed over 4 years); then they lose him Sunday. In the end, you have to think about that, too. The same issue will come up with Bulaga when his contract is up.
                                we also have to look at the fact that our secondary and coverage is horrid

                                should anyone be making big money on a secondary that is so bad? tramon is already making a ton

                                having two highly paid cb's on one of the worst secondaries in the nfl just doesn't seem right

                                bleacher report only has shields as the 10th best cb in this free agency class

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