DAMMIT.....Is SAN FRAN our new DALLAS of the 90's ?????

[woodbuck27]

http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/6158/defense-battles-but-still-has-shortcomings?ex_cid=espnapi_public

Defense battles but still has shortcomings.

January, 5, 2014 ... 11:00 PM ET ... By: Rob Demovsky | ESPN.com

Comment woodbuck27:

Aaron Rodgers and Randall Cobb; others give props to the Packer 'D' and DC Dom Capers.

But ... in the end was that enough?

In my view .... NO !

As I posted elsewhere yesterday. NFL Access's noted analyst Eric Davis planted the loss straight at the Packer 'D' for not protecting a late lead.

Personally I believe that instead of us Packer fans seeing 'a team win' we saw 'a Team LOSS' on a grand scale. That loss has nothing to do with a three point differential and everything to do with just how many times we failed to capitalize on plays that were so right there for the Packer benefit and in most cases for naught.

PACKERS !

[woodbuck27]

http://cinesport.jsonline.com/nfl-green-bay-packers/packers-49ers-postgame-sound/

Jim Harbaugh, Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers all spoke after the 49ers' 23-20 victory over the Green Bay Packers. San Francisco travels to Carolina to take on the Panthers next Sunday.

[Pugger]

Last year 49ers dominated both games. This year, Packers actually had a 4th quarter lead in both games, so they made strides. The Packers defense just isn't good enough right now, although they played respectably yesterday. The 49ers have more playmakers on defense, and I think that's the difference. But let's face it, that game could easily have gone the either way. I don't think the situation is similar to the '90's Dallas situation. Last year it was, but not now.

Especially had we had some of our injured guys in there like Heyward, Clay, Jolly, Shields, Neal...

[Pugger]

I think Carolina will tear SF's asses up.

And I for one will be cheering them on!

[mraynrand]

GB is closing the gap on SF, and I think they will continue to do so.

I think the gap is closed. If they had been as healthy as SF, they win that playoff game - even just in the game itself. See what happens in the offseason, TT has a chance to make Packers a decidedly better team, if they are reasonably healthy.

[mraynrand]

I think SF will beat Carolina. Carolina has a limited offense that SF can totally dominate. Carolina's defense is extremely good, but SF's offense just has more weapons.

[Pugger]

The difficult thing in evaluating a backup QB is looking at his past performances, which may have been for some pretty poor teams, and forecasting how he will do with what should be an overall better roster in GB, for example. Maybe what this year proved is that the rosters other than the elite QBs are much closer than people acknowledge.

Put Rodgers on the Bears the last 9 years and they might have been in the drivers seat of the NFC North.

Flynn flamed out in Seattle, Oakland and Buffalo but he was serviceable for us. Sometimes a guy has to be in the right spot to thrive?

[denverYooper]

I think the gap is closed. If they had been as healthy as SF, they win that playoff game - even just in the game itself. See what happens in the offseason, TT has a chance to make Packers a decidedly better team, if they are reasonably healthy.

I thought about this too and was trying to put my finger on the difference between the first game of the year against them and the last. Maybe they just figured out how to play them? Eddie Lacy sure helped wear out the defense at times. Their safeties bounced right off of him. Or maybe the bloom is of Kap a bit. For all he can do with his legs, he is a high variance passer right now -- some throws look strong and very good but some are just horrid -- and he seems to struggle with his reads.

[denverYooper]

San Fran is likely going to see the coaching staff break up as well and they've had 3 good years with the same staff and few injuries. The NFC West is also getting pretty strong, and it wouldn't be surprising to see the records even out there. Much as I'm loathe to admit it, I think Hairball is a good coach, but the Niners have enjoyed continuity on the staff and in the trenches and good health. They're going to start running into "rich team" problems soon -- lower draft picks, good players they can't pay (already Goldson, and their D was not as dominant this year), and their coaches will get picked off.

[Pugger]

San Fran is likely going to see the coaching staff break up as well and they've had 3 good years with the same staff and few injuries. The NFC West is also getting pretty strong, and it wouldn't be surprising to see the records even out there. Much as I'm loathe to admit it, I think Hairball is a good coach, but the Niners have enjoyed continuity on the staff and in the trenches and good health. They're going to start running into "rich team" problems soon -- lower draft picks, good players they can't pay (already Goldson, and their D was not as dominant this year), and their coaches will get picked off.

And they might have problems keeping all these vet FAs once they have pay Kaep.

[red]

I thought about this too and was trying to put my finger on the difference between the first game of the year against them and the last. Maybe they just figured out how to play them? Eddie Lacy sure helped wear out the defense at times. Their safeties bounced right off of him. Or maybe the bloom is of Kap a bit. For all he can do with his legs, he is a high variance passer right now -- some throws look strong and very good but some are just horrid -- and he seems to struggle with his reads.

i think the cold had a lot to do with it. they killed us the first game through the air going to crab and more importantly boldin

those two were very quiet this time, and i don't even remember hearing boldins name

so either those two were shut down, or those two were affected by the cold

[pbmax]

There was a point in the 3rd Quarter where the 49er D did not look like it wanted any part of the cold or unnecessary hitting. The defense was ripe for being taken apart.

In other news, I heard James Jones played with two broken ribs somewhere.

[mraynrand]

There was a point in the 3rd Quarter where the 49er D did not look like it wanted any part of the cold or unnecessary hitting. The defense was ripe for being taken apart.

In other news, I heard James Jones played with two broken ribs somewhere.

Bigger, tougher

[woodbuck27]

There was a point in the 3rd Quarter where the 49er D did not look like it wanted any part of the cold or unnecessary hitting. The defense was ripe for being taken apart.

In other news, I heard James Jones played with two broken ribs somewhere.

At one point I observed the 49er offense looking almost stunned as they sat on the sidelines while the Packer 'O' was doing it's thing.

I said to Mae. Look at the look in their eyes:

They looked stone cold beaten. I swear I saw that look of defeat on them. It was in their eyes and it was in their stature.

[Patler]

I heard James Jones played with two broken ribs somewhere.

I think he played in Green Bay. (Or is the correct sarcastic reply: "the ribs were in his chest"?)