CAPERS TO OVERSEE TURNAROUND OF DEFENSE....JS

[pbmax]

It does fit in with the idea that Capers didn't trust his players, especially with Hayward and Mathews down. The scheme was diluted to try to prevent gaping holes and therefore had lots of small holes. The question is, could anyone scheme better with the players available? The corollary is would those gaping holes be smaller with better coaching of the available players? If the first question is a clear yes than Capers should go, if the second is yes, one or more position coaches should go. If both are no, get better players by any means necessary.

I think by the end of the year he is out of talent and bodies to do much else. His game plan this year was very close to the game plan for the first half of the playoff game in San Fran. This one featured a bit more single safety (like the first game this year) and help with Davis and occasionally Boldin. The plan was not to get beat by the Gore and not by the read-option. Success. Keep and eye on Kap and spy him? Fail.

When your choices at outside linebacker are an injured Mulumba or Datone Jones, you are leaking water no pump will evacuate.

There were greater failures this year on D, but he did about all that could be done versus the 49ers.

[wist43]

There are plenty of excuses that can be used in Doms defense - young players and injuries at the top of the list; however, there can be no excuse for some of the crap he's put out on the field the past 3 years.

#1 is the 2-4, the Forty-Niners may be able to get away with playing a 2-4 against us, but they have some very stout front seven personnel, while our guys, even with Matthews, are not well suited to play a 2-4.

That being the case, and the fact that we do have some good players in the overall grouping, it is on Capers to put them in positions to be successful - the 2-4 does not do that in the least. The 3-3 nickel would have been a much more effective alignment, but Capers never figured that out.

#2 is the constant miscommunication in the back end. Yes, youth is an excuse; but if you know your guys are inexperienced, it is on Capers to simplify the calls and adjustments to ensure that there aren't miscommunications. Opposing receivers routinely catch balls and run several yards before the first defender even shows up on the screen. Players take bad angles, line up out of position, provide lax coverage on just about anything other than man up the sideline, are easily picked off on routes, on and on... youth doesn't explain the overall mess.

#3 would be poor adjustments. If plan A works?? we generally play well until the offense adjusts - then Mr. Spraypainted Hair is exposed. If plan A doesn't work?? we're sunk from the git-go. Anquan Boldin going for 300 yds receiving, and Reggie Wayne catching 63 balls for 412 yds?? You'd think he'd catch on after a bit, but no.

Setting a league record for pass defense futility in 2011 wasn't enough to get him fired; giving up 579 yds, and over 300 yds rushing, and a QB rushing record of 181 yds in last years playoffs wasn't enough to get him fired; and finishing 25th in defense this year, with all of the breakdowns, poor play, and lousy gameplans wasn't enough to get him fired...

I can only conclude that Dom Capers will be coaching the Packers defense when he is 93 years old, regardless of performance.

[Rodgers12]

Can we hire the Special Teams Coach that was fired from the Vikes? They may suck as a team but he developed a good kicker and the return game is great.

Please tell me you're joking. That guy is NOT 'Packer People.' That guy is a fucking bigot. End of discussion.

(Discussion concluded before Professor Rand stops by to lecture us about the biology, genetics and ethics of sexuality. )

[red]

i don't know

its not like the problems on the defense just popped up this year out of the blue. we've been seeing the same problems for three seasons now and he wasn't able to fix it at any other point, i have no faith in him fixing it now

[woodbuck27]

Please tell me you're joking. That guy is NOT 'Packer People.' That guy is a fucking bigot. End of discussion.

(Discussion concluded before Professor Rand stops by to lecture us about the biology, genetics and ethics of sexuality. )

Really and too easy to strike that "don't touch him" as he's too HOT.

It falls under the category:

Where there's smoke there's usually FIRE !

[Pugger]

It does fit in with the idea that Capers didn't trust his players, especially with Hayward and Mathews down. The scheme was diluted to try to prevent gaping holes and therefore had lots of small holes. The question is, could anyone scheme better with the players available? The corollary is would those gaping holes be smaller with better coaching of the available players? If the first question is a clear yes than Capers should go, if the second is yes, one or more position coaches should go. If both are no, get better players by any means necessary.

We need more talent on that side of the ball at certain positions. Its hard to make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

[Pugger]

i don't know

its not like the problems on the defense just popped up this year out of the blue. we've been seeing the same problems for three seasons now and he wasn't able to fix it at any other point, i have no faith in him fixing it now

I thought earlier this year we could see some improvement on D. We were stopping the run with some regularity and getting pressure on the QB. But the D progressively got worse as the season went on starting with the first Bears game when Rodgers got hurt? Coincidence?

[pbmax]

The more I think about this, I would prefer he find a monster ILB to play alongside Hawk. Monster as in play, not necessarily size.

Safety first, monster ILB second. Run plugging, two gappers are picked up by defenses every year. The talent on the d line on this team is pass rush type. Have to hope that is still developing.

[mraynrand]

Please tell me you're joking. That guy is NOT 'Packer People.' That guy is a fucking bigot. End of discussion.

(Discussion concluded before Professor Rand stops by to lecture us about the biology, genetics and ethics of sexuality. )

I'd rather suggest not relying entirely on the testimony of a mediocre, disgruntled, terminated employee.

[mraynrand]

#1 is the 2-4, the Forty-Niners may be able to get away with playing a 2-4 against us, but they have some very stout front seven personnel, while our guys, even with Matthews, are not well suited to play a 2-4.

Seems like the Packers can put just as stout a 2-4 out there are the 49ers, with Neal and Perry as OLB nand Pickett and Jolly inside, APRH. The Niners just have far better LBs, even if you swap Matthews for Jones, in the "Stout 2-4."

[denverYooper]

Seems like the Packers can put just as stout a 2-4 out there are the 49ers, with Neal and Perry as OLB nand Pickett and Jolly inside, APRH. The Niners just have far better LBs, even if you swap Matthews for Jones, in the "Stout 2-4."

Oh, you mean the unit that has 4 current and former all-pros playing? That might help.