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    Stanford S & C - is that Harbaugh's real secret?

    This is a fantastic read on modern sports conditioning. It gets around to some ideas that I feel the Packers may fundamentally be lacking in their program -- more focus on flexibility, functionality, and body balance.

    nytimes.com
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/31/sports/ncaafootball/stanfords-distinct-training-regimen-redefines-strength.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&emc=eta1


    I really wonder if Harbs took a lot of these ideas with him to San Fransisco's training program. They have constantly been one of the least injured teams. Likewise, I wonder if coaches who come up lately from college ranks (Carroll and Kelley included) now are bringing more cross-functional approaches to their S & C programs.
    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
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    well, whatever we've been doing isn't working for shit, so we need to do something different

    that being said, i have no faith in M3 ever changing anything. if he would ever change anything we wouldn't be stuck with the worst ST coach in the nfl year in and year out

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    • #3
      Get 'em in the Yoga classes, and taper off the HGH a bit.

      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
        Get 'em in the Yoga classes, and taper off the HGH a bit.

        Yeah, the article mentions yoga. Our rec center has a 75 minute "power yoga" class. That shit is hard. I get pretty wobbly by the end.
        When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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        • #5
          The skeptic will point to that they still lost to MI State, despite all the pleiades they did.
          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
            Get 'em in the Yoga classes, and taper off the HGH a bit.

            it sounds stupid and seems like a pussy thing to do, but yoga really would help a lot of these guys out

            should help cut down on all the pulled muscles

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            • #7
              You're right. Great read, Denver. "basically old-school, military calisthenics" I like that.

              A while back we had a discussion here about stretching...that part of the article was informative. The Packers should hire this guy, Turley. Whatever it costs will be more than made up for with improved time of play and performance on the field.
              One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
              John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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              • #8
                Mike Neal should be exhibit A when it comes to players who get injured because they're imbalanced. Moving him to OLB might have saved his career. I know he played most of the year with an abdominal injury. Watch him drop 10 more pounds and go on to be a great OLB.
                When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                  Yeah, the article mentions yoga. Our rec center has a 75 minute "power yoga" class. That shit is hard. I get pretty wobbly by the end.
                  I feel silly. I always assumed you were a male poster J/K, my wife does that and it crushes me. I am not man enough to do it.
                  The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                    Mike Neal should be exhibit A when it comes to players who get injured because they're imbalanced. Moving him to OLB might have saved his career. I know he played most of the year with an abdominal injury. Watch him drop 10 more pounds and go on to be a great OLB.
                    Your keyboard to God's ears.
                    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                      Mike Neal should be exhibit A when it comes to players who get injured because they're imbalanced. Moving him to OLB might have saved his career. I know he played most of the year with an abdominal injury. Watch him drop 10 more pounds and go on to be a great OLB.
                      actually, i know for a fact that neal used some of those cross training type of excersizes, he wasn't all weight room

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                      • #12
                        Redman was one of the first S&C guys to move into functional strength by position rather than simply weightlifting.

                        That was 30 years ago. He trained the Packer guys after McCarthy dumped Rock Cartwright, but left after a couple of years. I have no idea how current Redman was, but other ideas have been out there for a while. Philly has an entire dept working on nutrition and training science in addition to S&C.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #13
                          "real-world applicable man strength"

                          Good buzz word.

                          Rock Gullickson was the S&C coach fired in the 2009 coaching purge. He was all ate up on weight lifting.

                          Supposedly, Justin Harrell's back injury was sustained in the weight room.

                          Dave Redding was brought in to get the players in football shape with combinations of trining.

                          The stuff in the article is more new wave than Redman's meat and potatoes "get strong" ideas

                          Thx for the link, Yoop.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by red View Post
                            it sounds stupid and seems like a pussy thing to do, but yoga really would help a lot of these guys out

                            should help cut down on all the pulled muscles
                            P90 yoga is fucking hard. After trying it out, I'll never think doing yoga was a pussy thing to do ever again.
                            Originally posted by 3irty1
                            This is museum quality stupidity.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Zool View Post
                              P90 yoga is fucking hard. After trying it out, I'll never think doing yoga was a pussy thing to do ever again.
                              i know a girl that use to do that, she couldn't walk the first 2 weeks because it kicked her ass so bad. and she was an in shape girl to begin with

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