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  • #16
    Improve the defense.
    Get a cheap NT to replace Raji, draft an speedy asskicker at ILB, and find a savior at safety.

    If TT hit the trifecta there the defense might hold that lofty early season ranking and actually finish Top 10.
    The offense will be better organically if Bulaga, Sherrod come back and can play, and Bahktiari gets stronger. They'll need some help in the draft/FA to fill in gaps if Jones, EDS, and Finley are goners. Likewise, I'm assuming they let Raji walk and sign Shields.

    Of course, this is "APRH".

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    • #17
      run pMc, I agree - fix the defense, right up the middle.
      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • #18
        Originally posted by red View Post
        i vote for changing the draft and develop plan.

        we draft a lot of "project" players, byt the time they start to look like they "get it" or actually "belong in the NFL", ite either time to give them a big deal, or let them go

        to be, seattle shows a better way of team building. draft well, but sprinkle in some free agent vets on 1 and 2 year deals to help the younger guys develop
        And while you're at it, sprinkle in a few PEDs just for fun.

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        • #19
          DAMMIT; I SAW FIRE SLOCUME AND JUST VOTED

          BUT

          I WANT TO CHANGE MY VOTE TO CHANING OUR DRAFT AND DEVELOP PLAN


          but


          FIRE SLOCUM !!!!
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #20
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            Despite my normal agreement with and defense of Thompson's draft draft and more draft philosophy, I think he needs to adjust. Or perhaps more accurately, this needs to be another year he engages in FA (like 2008) if a player fits what they need at S, ILB or DT. He did a nice job converting his 4-3 roster in 2009 and he can certainly do it again (though the FA signings of Wood and Pickett were a year earlier I think).

            There is far too much talk about "windows" in the NFL and speculation about how long something will last is ridiculous. However, now is not a bad time to ramp things up. The cap will be going up soon, the large number of FAs on their own roster is both a challenge and opportunity to remake certain positions and there are clear areas of need that would benefit from a vet.

            Its also not impossible to clearly be ahead of the NFC race, because the gap with 49ers has closed and the Seahawks were already within reach last year.


            Second is S&C, they need to advance this part of the operation.

            Last is ST. Maybe he gets a job offer somewhere.
            I would say that you want Jarius Byrd then. He fills a gaping hole in a way that would make Peter North proud. We have the room under the cap. I don't see where we lose a "prospect" worth keeping by signing him.

            He also showed how important he was to the Bills when he was hurt. He came back and their defense was pretty solid.
            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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            • #21
              "This poll will close on 01-29-2014 at 02:39 PM Be advised that this is a public poll: other users can see the choice(s) you selected."

              There now ...you've done it.

              I'm too afraid to vote.

              Ohh wait...choice (s).

              I have choices or more that one choice?!?
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              • #22
                Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                I would say that you want Jarius Byrd then. He fills a gaping hole in a way that would make Peter North proud..
                I shoulda had better sense than to google that.
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                  I would say that you want Jarius Byrd then. He fills a gaping hole in a way that would make Peter North proud. We have the room under the cap. I don't see where we lose a "prospect" worth keeping by signing him.

                  He also showed how important he was to the Bills when he was hurt. He came back and their defense was pretty solid.
                  in a perfect world we tag and trade raji for a second

                  sign byrd

                  then use the raji draft pick to move up in the 1st to grab cj mosley

                  imo, defense fixed

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                  • #24
                    According to Football Outsiders, the Packers Special teams have had the following ranks:

                    2010: 26th
                    2011: 8th
                    2012: 18th
                    2013: 19th

                    This does lend some credence to the argument that ST are the area most impacted by an injury plagued year. Could it be that Slocum isn't that bad?

                    I posted this here because I can't post it in the Fire Slocum thread.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                      According to Football Outsiders, the Packers Special teams have had the following ranks:

                      2010: 26th
                      2011: 8th
                      2012: 18th
                      2013: 19th

                      This does lend some credence to the argument that ST are the area most impacted by an injury plagued year. Could it be that Slocum isn't that bad?

                      I posted this here because I can't post it in the Fire Slocum thread.
                      That no doubt has caused some of his problems. And having Cobb for returns helped quite a bit after Slocum's slow start. But remember JSO had another ST coach say the Packers were trying some novel and occasionally unsound things in his first year.

                      Its such a mess to figure out why ST's struggle Many good teams have terrible special teams and the reverse is often true. But even with injuries, is the roster talented enough to be average at ST (same question with defense I guess)? I say yes.

                      Capers has a track record outside of the Packer roster, Slocum does not.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                        I shoulda had better sense than to google that.
                        This will help the cleanup: How do I clear my Internet browser history?
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #27
                          Defense: Could be Capers gone or insist on scheme alteration

                          I'm a fair person.

                          I'll give you something.

                          You give me something too.
                          ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                          ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                          ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                          ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by red View Post
                            in a perfect world we tag and trade raji for a second

                            sign byrd

                            then use the raji draft pick to move up in the 1st to grab cj mosley

                            imo, defense fixed
                            That's quite the perfect world...but I doubt anyone would give a second, or even a third, for Raji. Plus, at least last season, Byrd wanted to become the highest paid safety out there.

                            I'd say draft a safety, and shore up the DL and LB through FA if possible.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Striker View Post
                              That's quite the perfect world...but I doubt anyone would give a second, or even a third, for Raji. Plus, at least last season, Byrd wanted to become the highest paid safety out there.

                              I'd say draft a safety, and shore up the DL and LB through FA if possible.
                              Green Bay Packers GM Ted Thompson might look at it this way:

                              As a preliminary to establishing his target prospects and any Free Agents and 2014 drafting strategy.

                              TT simply has to convince HC Mike McCarthy and DC Dom Capers to switch the defense from... a Base 3-4 'D' to a Base 4-3 Defense. If that's done, that's a best step towards SUCCESS.

                              Right there Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy have demonstrated foresight and established a sincere and intelligent decision/conviction towards re-establishing the Packers to tossing a small 'd' defense to become ... ASA 'reasonably' Possible ... a REAL DEFENSE.

                              The domino effect arrives in the Green Bay Packers favor and Packer Nation will have something to really hope for, have faith in and CELEBRATE.

                              Ted Thompson simply has to steer the ship. Take "the BULL by the horns" and roll him to the dusty ground. I'm referring to the stubbornness I observe in Packer Head Coach Mike McCarthy.

                              Is MM stubborn? Are you paying attention?

                              I'm NOT insulting MM . I'm simply seeing him for what's too obvious to me. I'm concerned over that as in my lifetime I've concluded that .....stubborness too often morphs into stupidness.

                              Once Ted Thompson gets that doen he's finally giving himself the best break he can as I see it all right now.

                              Then TT can focus on " the Front Line" of that 4-3 DEFENSE... THE DL.

                              Ted Thompson has the three significant "BIG MEN":

                              **34 year old ... Ryan Pickett

                              ** Seriously injured and needing surgery with a 5th vertebrae issue - Johnny Jolly.

                              ** possibly malcontent .. the seriously under performing DT BJ Raji. Is Raji reacting as he needs to (see Pickett and Jolly) in terms of ALL IN and PACKERS?

                              Now...toss that to the side in terms of clarity and "the BEST decision" and the Green bay Packers DL. It's rather complicated. There's a lot for Ted Thompson needs to factor in.

                              See The BIG Three BJ Raji; Ryan Pickett ; Johnny jolly and add DE C.J. Wilson.

                              That's a fair amount to look at and be decisive in terms of the Packers DL and the current UFA's.

                              GO PACK GO !
                              ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                              ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                              ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                              ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                What is the best way to improve talent on D?
                                Better drafting, better luck at injuries and perhaps a mid-level FA at safety to shore up the back end of the D while developing a S in the meanwhile.

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