Former Packers still pursuing the dream

[gbgary]

will blackmon cut by the skins

[Harlan Huckleby]

will blackmon cut by the skins

Hearing Blackmon's name always startles me. I have placed way, way back, wonder if they are referring to Will Blackmon, Jr.

[KYPack]

Hearing Blackmon's name always startles me. I have placed way, way back, wonder if they are referring to Will Blackmon, Jr.

WB returned a couple punts in one Pre-season game. Trying to re-capture his youth?

[pbmax]

From Wilde:

[Zool]

Did Myles White ever put on any weight?

How in the shit does Big Game Joel still have a job? He was in Madison for 8 years and never got any better and he keeps bouncing from tam to team in the NFL. At some point, he is what he is.

[Teamcheez1]

Minnesota Vikings place Datone Jones on injured reserve due to a shoulder injury and will likely seek an injury settlement to release him.

[pbmax]

Did Myles White ever put on any weight?

How in the shit does Big Game Joel still have a job? He was in Madison for 8 years and never got any better and he keeps bouncing from tam to team in the NFL. At some point, he is what he is.

There was some pushback on Kaepernick this week and one of the points raised by a personnel guy was that Kaepernick could not run your offense, you would have to run his offense. Put aside for the moment whether that is true, but think about the implication.

We need a guy who is 6' 4", who will stay in the pocket and make all the throws and take the hits and run our offense. There are, generously, 12 guys who can do that effectively and that list includes the inaccurate Manning. But that does not stop teams from hiring coaches who run THAT offense. So there are always 20 spots manned by guys (like Stave, Tolzien, Blake Bortles, Brock Osweiler, Mike Glennon, and Tom Savage) who are not NFL quality and will cost you games.

But the teams keep hiring coaches that continue this cycle. The team HOPES it can find a QB to run the offense. And they make bad trade after bad decision to find them. The entire idea of coaches on a 5 year contract is designed around the idea of finding that QB in the first 3 years and developing him.

Three teams broke the mold recently and all were aborted by people dying to return to the old model (sometimes due to predecessor incompetence). Buffalo, Philly/San Fran (Kelly), and San Francisco (Harbaugh) all blew up attempts to make an alternative system work.

An alternate approach to offense is the answer. But no one wants to support it and hire competent people to do it. The only man who does?

Bill Belichick.

McCarthy is innovative (though recently he made a major shift to a smaller number of plays out of fewer formations, I think to the team's detriment) but he has succeeded largely because like Wolf, Thompson knew how to find a QB in the draft without bankrupting the entire player acquisition process. But even with a judicious QB search, they got a little lucky.

[smuggler]

Even Belichik's innovation in the offense only extends as far as the OTHER positions, not QB.

[bobblehead]

There was some pushback on Kaepernick this week and one of the points raised by a personnel guy was that Kaepernick could not run your offense, you would have to run his offense. Put aside for the moment whether that is true, but think about the implication.

We need a guy who is 6' 4", who will stay in the pocket and make all the throws and take the hits and run our offense. There are, generously, 12 guys who can do that effectively and that list includes the inaccurate Manning. But that does not stop teams from hiring coaches who run THAT offense. So there are always 20 spots manned by guys (like Stave, Tolzien, Blake Bortles, Brock Osweiler, Mike Glennon, and Tom Savage) who are not NFL quality and will cost you games.

But the teams keep hiring coaches that continue this cycle. The team HOPES it can find a QB to run the offense. And they make bad trade after bad decision to find them. The entire idea of coaches on a 5 year contract is designed around the idea of finding that QB in the first 3 years and developing him.

Three teams broke the mold recently and all were aborted by people dying to return to the old model (sometimes due to predecessor incompetence). Buffalo, Philly/San Fran (Kelly), and San Francisco (Harbaugh) all blew up attempts to make an alternative system work.

An alternate approach to offense is the answer. But no one wants to support it and hire competent people to do it. The only man who does?

Bill Belichick.

McCarthy is innovative (though recently he made a major shift to a smaller number of plays out of fewer formations, I think to the team's detriment) but he has succeeded largely because like Wolf, Thompson knew how to find a QB in the draft without bankrupting the entire player acquisition process. But even with a judicious QB search, they got a little lucky.

I could make a similar argument about Tim Tebow. As a matter of fact Tebow is over .500, Kap is at .500. Tebow didn't have near as talented of a team. But GMs have decided they don't like distractions unless its a gay player then its cool. (or a dog torturer)

[pbmax]

I could make a similar argument about Tim Tebow. As a matter of fact Tebow is over .500, Kap is at .500. Tebow didn't have near as talented of a team. But GMs have decided they don't like distractions unless its a gay player then its cool. (or a dog torturer)

You could run a Tyrod Taylor kind of offense with Tebow. But no one really wanted to do that either. I think he falls into this category.

But he doesn't have the arm talent Kaepernick does. CK might be inaccurate, but he can do pre-snap reads and through to a spot. He also succeeded in the pocket last year for Kelly to a certain extent. Tebow needed players to run themselves open before he threw. His success in the pass game came when Defenses couldn't get pressure to him and had single coverage downfield (see the Pittsburgh playoff game).

Even that would only net a score or two a game.

[pbmax]

Even Belichik's innovation in the offense only extends as far as the OTHER positions, not QB.

I agree to a degree. But he remade the offense to suit Brady's abilities and Brady is not the prototypical QB except in size and toughness.

He doesn't have a cannon arm and he doesn't throw most of his passes into tight windows. What is unremarked about Belichick's achievement here is that he has created a completely new system that is very QB friendly, yet no one compares this to what Walsh did with Montana.

[Patler]

John Kuhn made the Saint's roster again.
Tramon Williams stuck with Arizona.

[Joemailman]

John Kuhn made the Saint's roster again.
Tramon Williams stuck with Arizona.

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Source: the Saints have released veteran FB John Kuhn. Grit level in New Orleans takes an immediate nosedive.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Source: the Saints have released veteran FB John Kuhn. Grit level in New Orleans takes an immediate nosedive.

Hope pack sign him soooooooooooooooooooooooooooon! (I spent 6 years predicting his demise, sorta miss him.)

[Patler]

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Source: the Saints have released veteran FB John Kuhn. Grit level in New Orleans takes an immediate nosedive.

So he lasted one day this year?