KG Steps Down

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Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 50m
In 5 years, Greene was given 2 first-rounders (Matthews and Perry) and a second-rounder (Neal). Also FAs, Walden, Moses, Mulumba, Zombo...

Would a failure to develop Perry be enough reason to bounce him? Has Perry been healthy enough to judge?

[Guiness]

Um, wow. I'm really, really surprised by this, and I think for many here he wasn't one of the coaches that we thought could be in trouble.

I don't feel there a concern with the performance of his players. Goes without saying that Clay has played well. Perry hasn't worked out, but injuries have held him back. It seemed like he got as good of performances as could be expected out of Mulumba and Perry as rookies, and Neale, first year at the position.

[Rutnstrut]

Please let this mean they are firing Capers and staff and gave KG a heads up.

[call_me_ishmael]

There are not a whole lotta college programs running a 3-4. And those that do don't have many NFL ready OLB prospects. Didn't see one at Wisconsin this year. Matthews played Leo or Elephant in a 4-3 though he sometimes he did use a 2 point stance.

I suspect this was "steps down" because of the timing, but he would not have been Top 3 likely to go in my list.

Should I ever had compiled such a list.

Alabama? LSU? What other schools?

[denverYooper]

Terrell Davis was on our local radio station a month or so ago talking about how Shanny offered him a coaching job after he (TD) retired. Davis thanked him but said no way, because he knew what kind of ridiculous hours coaches put in.

[Rutnstrut]

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 50m
In 5 years, Greene was given 2 first-rounders (Matthews and Perry) and a second-rounder (Neal). Also FAs, Walden, Moses, Mulumba, Zombo...

Would a failure to develop Perry be enough reason to bounce him? Has Perry been healthy enough to judge?

Do you think they are making him a scapegoat? If that's the case, I hate TT and stubby even more.

[call_me_ishmael]

The actual NFL reporter that is on WSSP said a few minutes into a conversation with Greene and he'd forget what he was talking about. Literally say something to the effect of "I'm sorry, what were we talking about again? Too many hits to the head."

[mraynrand]

Walk it through:

If he's a quality coach, you might have expected him to move up in the ranks by now. After all, he isn't a LB coach, he's an OLB coach. Even Singletary took less time to move up - one year mooing with Nolan from Raven to SF. Interim coach from a position much like Moss in 2008 when Nolan was canned. And then it got really bad.

So either he didn't want to move up, he wasn't qualified to move up, or there was no interest in promoting him due to performance. In any case, you have stagnation.

What about performance? Injuries aside, you could say he did a decent job with a lot of scrubs and one blue chipper, and recently seemed to be making progress with Neal and Perry (though there were cracks - how did Perry so terribly blow his assignment against Chicago? What about Mulumba screwing up? Is KG being blamed for Walden's errors?). At the same time, Matthews IMO is rapidly regressing in pass rushing since moving to the right side. So how much of this is due to KG? Was he part of the scheme to move Matthews? If not, is his failure the failure of others, by giving him the wrong tools in the wrong spots.

Maybe he's stepping down because he's frustrated with what he's been dealt.

The "wanting to spend more time with the family" trope is LOL funny. Nobody wants to spend more time with their family.

Will be interesting to see what comes out, and what the Packers do with their collection of Misfit Kids at LB

[SMBASS]

From a strictly skills standpoint, you may be right. But from a matchup point of view, the OLB is usually dealing with a Tackle in a 3-4. Sam linebacker in a 4-3 is dealing with a TE and occasionally a Tackle. The one skill that probably does not crossover is emphasis on pass rush.

Believe me, I understand what you're saying. These teams want a guy who is 6-4/6-5 around 270+ lbs. so that he can take on tackles and set an edge in the run game and then they think they can teach him how to play in space, cover running backs in pass routes, etc.. In my opinion and just by my observations most of these guys are never fast enough and never adapt to playing in that space. It just seems that a lot more of these experiments fail than succeed. There just aren't that many CMIII's coming out of college who have the speed and athletic ability to make that adaptation.

[Rutnstrut]

The actual NFL reporter that is on WSSP said a few minutes into a conversation with Greene and he'd forget what he was talking about. Literally say something to the effect of "I'm sorry, what were we talking about again? Too many hits to the head."

That can also be from long hours and too many things going on at once, I really hope he can slow down and relax.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

The actual NFL reporter that is on WSSP said a few minutes into a conversation with Greene and he'd forget what he was talking about. Literally say something to the effect of "I'm sorry, what were we talking about again? Too many hits to the head."

Or he is in shock because the Packers are fucking him...

[mraynrand]

The actual NFL reporter that is on WSSP said a few minutes into a conversation with Greene and he'd forget what he was talking about. Literally say something to the effect of "I'm sorry, what were we talking about again? Too many hits to the head."

Holy Christmas

[Rutnstrut]

Walk it through:

If he's a quality coach, you might have expected him to move up in the ranks by now. After all, he isn't a LB coach, he's an OLB coach. Even Singletary took less time to move up - one year mooing with Nolan from Raven to SF. Interim coach from a position much like Moss in 2008 when Nolan was canned. And then it got really bad.

So either he didn't want to move up, he wasn't qualified to move up, or there was no interest in promoting him due to performance. In any case, you have stagnation.

What about performance? Injuries aside, you could say he did a decent job with a lot of scrubs and one blue chipper, and recently seemed to be making progress with Neal and Perry (though there were cracks - how did Perry so terribly blow his assignment against Chicago? What about Mulumba screwing up? Is KG being blamed for Walden's errors?). At the same time, Matthews IMO is rapidly regressing in pass rushing since moving to the right side. So how much of this is due to KG? Was he part of the scheme to move Matthews? If not, is his failure the failure of others, by giving him the wrong tools in the wrong spots.

Maybe he's stepping down because he's frustrated with what he's been dealt.

The "wanting to spend more time with the family" trope is LOL funny. Nobody wants to spend more time with their family.

Will be interesting to see what comes out, and what the Packers do with their collection of Misfit Kids at LB

So the same could be said about Capers, if he is a quality coach, why has NO ONE been after him for a head coaching job? I know he has failed as a head coach in the past, so don't bring that up. The big reason no one has tried to "steal" him away is because he SUCKS!!!

[Guiness]

Walk it through:

If he's a quality coach, you might have expected him to move up in the ranks by now. After all, he isn't a LB coach, he's an OLB coach. Even Singletary took less time to move up - one year mooing with Nolan from Raven to SF. Interim coach from a position much like Moss in 2008 when Nolan was canned. And then it got really bad.

Just read an article on it, he's been with the Pack for 5 years. That surprised me, and you're right, you'd expect him to have moved up a bit by now. If he wanted to stay in GB, that's a bit of a dilemma in itself though, there really hasn't been any turnover in the defensive staff.

[woodbuck27]

What the FUCK is this !?

Have I entered the GD Twilight Zone !?

Suddenly my stomach is churning.