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  • #31
    Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD
    But to be fair he hasn't had enough carries this preseason to really judge him that well.

    And this is the biggest question for me. He's been healthy, except for very early in camp.

    WHY isn't he playing more? Because Beach has just "lit it up"? Because they are fufilling a promise to let Herron compete? Because Gado already has a spot "locked up"? Because he "doesn't fit"?

    Damn I wish I knew. It just bugs the crap out of me that he's not getting an opportunity to pass/fail. It seems that his fate has already been determined.

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    • #32
      Damn I wish I knew. It just bugs the crap out of me that he's not getting an opportunity to pass/fail. It seems that his fate has already been determined.
      Yep, and Green is going to suck up all the carries tomorrow, so I don't think he going to get much in that game either.
      Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD
        Damn I wish I knew. It just bugs the crap out of me that he's not getting an opportunity to pass/fail. It seems that his fate has already been determined.
        Yep, and Green is going to suck up all the carries tomorrow, so I don't think he going to get much in that game either.

        Agreed, unless Green lights it up early, which, is pretty doubtful. He's got to be rusty and the line is still in the very early learning stages. Unless Cincy's defense takes the night off, not likely, they are going to need a fair amount of carries for Green to see where he really is.

        Then, you've got to get Beach some reps to see if he's for real, and that doesn't leave very much. There is another reason I think what I think. I just can't piece together how they make any other decision.

        Last years success doesn't "carry" a backup guy anymore. You've got to keep producing and Gado just hasn't due to limited chances.

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        • #34
          I think the coaches know what they get from Gado. If Gado is outta here then it's only through a trade. Gado lit up in real games last season not vs 2nd or 3rd stringers vs the Falcons...like Beach. With that said, I do like Beach, but I have little love for Davenport or Herron. Yet Gado knows and the coaches know that picking up the ZBS is paramount. Gado could be traded and what's this with Gado having hands of steel? He's at least mediocre
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          • #35
            McCarthy seems pissed off at Davenport because he's always hurt. Davenport played some fullback in college yet M3 never even tried him there. I don't think M3 likes his attitude. I don't think he's looking at Gado much because he's already made the team. Green/Gado/Beach will stay, Davenpoop & Herron are gone. Leach will stay.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by packrulz
              McCarthy seems pissed off at Davenport because he's always hurt. Davenport played some fullback in college yet M3 never even tried him there. I don't think M3 likes his attitude. I don't think he's looking at Gado much because he's already made the team. Green/Gado/Beach will stay, Davenpoop & Herron are gone. Leach will stay.
              Thats what am thinking to......
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              • #37
                Originally posted by retailguy
                ...with the change to 75 from 65 then to 53, that puts over 700 guys out of work quickly and some pretty good talent hits the street.....

                Landmark post, MHO. Respect.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by packrulz
                  McCarthy seems pissed off at Davenport because he's always hurt. Davenport played some fullback in college yet M3 never even tried him there. I don't think M3 likes his attitude. I don't think he's looking at Gado much because he's already made the team. Green/Gado/Beach will stay, Davenpoop & Herron are gone. Leach will stay.
                  I believe MM & TT are upset because they came to the conclusion early in minicamps that Davenport was not the answer. Najeh has blown off all coaching suggestions that he needs to change his running style to protect himself (he runs too high). I really believe they hoped Davenport would look great in the first 2 preseason games so that they could offload him with a trade to a team looking for RB help. Unfortunately, Davenport was far from impressive and his continuing barrage of nagging injuries has further eroded his trade value. What's next? If Herron and Beach show any "flash" (one of this year's nauseating buzz words! ) Davenport will be dumped like a turd in a dormroom closet.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by esoxx
                    I think Hunter makes the roster but Tollefson goes to the Practice Squad. Vonte Leach gets cut. Davenport is on thin ice and just might be waived. Kenny "Big Game" Peterson is vulnerable. Cory Rodgers is gone. Whitticker is history.
                    I'm glad somebody else besides me is thinking/realizing that Hunter is a guy that needs to be kept. Just too much potential as a pass rusher with that natural speed.

                    And for anybody ready to rip KGB and say we can't afford two of them...remember...KGB is a fine football player if GB would be using him right. It's that insane contract that makes it frustrating. I'd love it if Hunter develops close to what KGB did.

                    B
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Bretsky
                      I'm glad somebody else besides me is thinking/realizing that Hunter is a guy that needs to be kept. Just too much potential as a pass rusher with that natural speed.

                      And for anybody ready to rip KGB and say we can't afford two of them...remember...KGB is a fine football player if GB would be using him right. It's that insane contract that makes it frustrating. I'd love it if Hunter develops close to what KGB did.

                      B

                      B, I think Hunter is the reason that Peterson is in trouble. Hunter has potential, Peterson, whom I think has been underutilized, seems to have peaked with what you're going to get. TT has shown he'll keep a guy based upon potential - Donnell Washington is a prime example, Chris White is another.

                      Hunter could be the "pass rush" guy you envision as KGB's correct position late this year. The wild card on the line is Montgomery in my mind. Can he develop? Seems 50-50 at this point.

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                      • #41
                        TE is a tough call too. If they keep 3 they have Bubba then I hope they keep Donald Lee & Tory Humphrey and let David Martin go. He gets hurt a lot and drops of passes, & he's probably overpaid. They could put Zak Alcorn on the developmental squad. Humphrey caught that sweet pass over the middle, haven't seen that in awhile.
                        Thanks Ted!

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                        • #42
                          I haven't read through what everyone wrote, but I thought I'd go through and put who i think makes the team, and then who gets cut position by position.

                          u]Keep
                          QB:Favre, Rodgers, Martin
                          RB:Green, Davenport, Gado, Henderson, Leach
                          WR: Driver, Ferguson, Gardner, Jennings, Rodgers
                          TE: Franks, Lee, Martin
                          T: Clifton, Tauscher, Whittacker, Peko
                          G: Spitz, Colledge, Moll, Moore
                          C: Wells, White, Coston
                          DE: Kampman, KGB, Montgomery, Hunter, Tollefson
                          DT: Pickett, Allen, Cole, Jenkins, Jolly, Peterson, Williams
                          OLB: Hawk, Taylor, Manning, White, Poppinga
                          MLB: Barnett, Hodge
                          CB: Woodson, Harris, Carroll, Hawkins, Horton, Blackmon(PUP)
                          FS: Collins, Boger
                          SS: Manuel, Culver, Bigsby, Underwood(PUP)
                          K: Rayner
                          P: Ryan
                          LS: Davis

                          cut
                          QB: Wrobel
                          HB: Herron, Beach, Cooper, Brown (I know Beach is coming on, but I just don't know)
                          WR: Lucas, Martin, Brewster, Russell, Butler (This is the tough position, i think Lucas, Martin, and even Brewster are making pushes to keep a 6th or cut Rodgers, so this could change for me)
                          TE: Alcon, Humphrey (again, tough, It'll be either Martin or Humphrey for that 3rd spot)
                          T: Bourke
                          G: Traynor
                          C:
                          DE: Murphy
                          DT: Nichols
                          LB: Campbell, Goodwell
                          CB: Malone, Dendy, Wishom
                          S: Modkins


                          so i have 59 kept...so they'd have to trim down 6 more to make a final roster...which will, in my opinion, be very interesting as to what they do. I think obviously you'll see a few less Defensive Lineman that i have listed, as to who, i donno. Tollefson probably will be, but I kind of like the kid, and DT's??? if TT is going to chop any, I hope he trades them and gets something from them, cause they are all quality guys.
                          "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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                          • #43
                            I believe the plan is to give Green about 16-18 carries, then the other RB's will get their shot. Is Davenport even healthy enough to play Monday?

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                            • #44
                              wow, i need to learn how to underline on here evidently.
                              "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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                              • #45
                                LOL looks like you have the underline mastered!!

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