Which Green Bay Packer Is Your 2013 Season MVP ?

[Freak Out]

Lacy.

[pbmax]

Bach.

And if he doesn't win Team MVP, he is probably winning the Bruce Wilkerson Memorial Thanks For Saving Our Ass Award for 2013.

[woodbuck27]

As always this discussion comes down to what your definition of MVP is. No way in hell with any definition of MVP would I give that label to Crosby. IMO Crosby is most improved or comeback player for GB. Two players i would call MVP are AR and Lacy. AR for the simple reason if look what happened w/o him and Lacy for being our best player throughout the entire year. Easy discussion easy answer. Anything else is in the WTF category

In 2013 Mason Crosby had his finest season as a Packer kicker. Crosby finished 12th in the NFL overall ranking among kickers, making 33 of 37 field goal attempts (or 89.2% of his attempted kicks).

Starting in early Nov.'13, Crosby made 18 of 20 field goals. He didn't miss a field goal since the Philadelphia Eagles game loss. Mason Crosby made 18 in a row over the last 8 games of the season. That game streak includes the playoff loss to the San Francisco 49ers.

With the Aaron Rodgers injury, every point was precious. Crosby was perfect in attempts Vs Minny, Atlanta and Dallas. Games in which the Packers had two wins and a tie and without Mason Crosby's perfection ... one thing leads to another.

** The Chicago Bears would be NFCN Champions.

** The "one and out" playoff loss to the 49ers isn't in our minds or a conversation on Packerrats.

Comment woodbuck27:

Whatever you fellas do. Don't think outside the box.

[smuggler]

Aaron Rodgers. The team reminded me of 2005 when he was out.

[Fritz]

In the long run, I wonder if it will be a blessing is disguise that Rodgers missed all that time this year.

It showed that our defense was not ready for prime time, that it can't be counted on to hold the fort. In short, it's not a championship defense.

My hope is that Thompson will invest heavily in the defense in the draft, and dammit, that he'll sign a mid-level FA or two who is athletic and experienced.

[BZnDallas]

In 2013 Mason Crosby had his finest season as a Packer kicker. Crosby finished 12th in the NFL overall ranking among kickers, making 33 of 37 field goal attempts (or 89.2% of his attempted kicks).

Starting in early Nov.'13, Crosby made 18 of 20 field goals. He didn't miss a field goal since the Philadelphia Eagles game loss. Mason Crosby made 18 in a row over the last 8 games of the season. That game streak includes the playoff loss to the San Francisco 49ers.

With the Aaron Rodgers injury, every point was precious. Crosby was perfect in attempts Vs Minny, Atlanta and Dallas. Games in which the Packers had two wins and a tie and without Mason Crosby's perfection ... one thing leads to another.

** The Chicago Bears would be NFCN Champions.

** The "one and out" playoff loss to the 49ers isn't in our minds or a conversation on Packerrats.

Comment woodbuck27:

Whatever you fellas do. Don't think outside the box.

For me inside or outside the box its the same. W/o Crosby this team brings in a kicker that hits what 80% or higher from fg range?

MVP- most valuable player. You cant convince me that Rodgers isnt THE most valuable player after we ALL witnessed what happened when he went down.

Jordy was and remains a damn fine player. Not MVP. Bak, love the help he provided from the jump. Not MVP. Sitton? Again love the effort and prob our best oline man. Not MVP.

Most VALUABLE? What happens when you take an MVP off a roster? That team goes to shit. I witnessed that after AR went down. Easy answer AR for GB MVP.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

MD Jennings.

[run pMc]

In the long run, I wonder if it will be a blessing is disguise that Rodgers missed all that time this year.

It showed that our defense was not ready for prime time, that it can't be counted on to hold the fort. In short, it's not a championship defense.

My hope is that Thompson will invest heavily in the defense in the draft, and dammit, that he'll sign a mid-level FA or two who is athletic and experienced.

+1

Rodgers was the MVP. He is the most valuable player on the team -- as he goes, so goes the team.

You could nominate Flynn or Bahktiari for the Bruce Wilkerson.

[mraynrand]

You could nominate Flynn or Bahktiari for the Bruce Wilkerson.

I vote Flynn. Bak played the entire season - He gets the Tim Newsome Rookie Award. Flynn fits the Wilkerson award perfectly. Obscure backup (not even on the team until desperate) who comes in, fills a huge area of need, with a performance that is just enough to help the team get to the playoffs.

[Tony Oday]

Cutler...he signed a retirement contract in Chicago to ensure that THE BEARS STILL SUCK!

[denverYooper]

Cutler...he signed a retirement contract in Chicago to ensure that THE BEARS STILL SUCK!

LOL. I was thinking Stafford, because he helped the Lions blow their lead down the stretch.

[Smidgeon]

In the long run, I wonder if it will be a blessing is disguise that Rodgers missed all that time this year.

It showed that our defense was not ready for prime time, that it can't be counted on to hold the fort. In short, it's not a championship defense.

My hope is that Thompson will invest heavily in the defense in the draft, and dammit, that he'll sign a mid-level FA or two who is athletic and experienced.

You mean like the draft before last? I just want some of those guys to start showing up more (due to not being injured or being more talented).

[ThunderDan]

This thread reminds me of a fantasy football league I was in at work. We did a live draft and with the 3rd pick a woman in our office picked a kicker.

The rest of the members didn't want the league to be skewed by the pick so we disallowed the pick. The woman at work said, "But he scored the most points in the NFL last year."

No kickers were allowed to be drafted until round 6 going forward in the league.

I pick Lacy for Packer MVP.

[woodbuck27]

For me inside or outside the box its the same. W/o Crosby this team brings in a kicker that hits what 80% or higher from fg range?

MVP- most valuable player. You cant convince me that Rodgers isnt THE most valuable player after we ALL witnessed what happened when he went down.

Jordy was and remains a damn fine player. Not MVP. Bak, love the help he provided from the jump. Not MVP. Sitton? Again love the effort and prob our best oline man. Not MVP.

Most VALUABLE? What happens when you take an MVP off a roster? That team goes to shit. I witnessed that after AR went down. Easy answer AR for GB MVP.

Do the Green Bay Packers get into the playoffs without Mason Crosby's much improved performance this season?

Looking at the Minny, Atlanta and Dallas games closer:

http://www.packers.com/gameday/schedule.html

http://www.packers.com/assets/docs/gamebooks/2013/131124-gamebook-vikings.pdf

12 Nov 24 ... A TIE ... PACKERS 26 - MINNESOTA 26

Team Qtr Time Play Description (Extra Point) (Drive Info) Visitor Home

Packers 1 4:59 S.Tolzien 6 yd. run (M.Crosby kick) (11-87, 5:59) 0 7

The Minnesota Vikings SCORE 23 Unanswered Points.

SCORE: Minnesota 23 - GREEN BAY 7

Packers 4 11:42 E.Lacy 3 yd. run (pass failed) (9-80, 2:40)
23 13 "MINNY"

Packers 4 3:30 J.Boykin 6 yd. pass from M.Flynn (M.Crosby kick) (12-76, 5:10) 23 - 20 " MINNY"

Packers 4 0:46 M.Crosby 27 yd. Field Goal (10-60, 1:41) 23 23 >>>

Mason Crosby's FG TIES THE GAME @ 23 ALL !

FINAL SCORE: A TIE ... GREEN BAY 26 - MINNESOTA 26


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http://www.packers.com/gameday/game/2013/regular14

http://www.packers.com/assets/docs/gamebooks/2013/131215-gamebook-cowboys.pdf

14 Dec 8 ... A WIN ... GREEN BAY 21 - ATLANTA 21

Team Qtr Time Play Description (Extra Point) (Drive Info) Visitor Home

Packers 1 0:00 E.Lacy 1 yd. run (M.Crosby kick) (18-90, 9:07) 0 7

PACKERS 7 - ATLANTA 0

ATLANTA SCORES 14 Unanswered Points !

Packers 2 3:39 M.Crosby 40 yd. Field Goal (11-40, 5:04) 14 10

ATLANTA SCORES ANOTHER 7 POINTS !

SCORE ATLANTA 21 - GREEN BAY 10

Packers 3 (9:10) M.Crosby 33 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-B.Goode, Holder-T.Masthay. 21 13

ATLANTA 21 - GREEN BAY 13

Packers 3 (:49) M.Crosby 25 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-B.Goode, Holder-T.Masthay

ATLANTA 21 - GREEN BAY 16

Packers 4 (12:05) (Shotgun) M.Flynn pass short right to A.Quarless for 2 yards, TOUCHDOWN. P20

TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. M.Flynn pass to J.Jones is incomplete. ATTEMPT FAILS.

GREEN BAY 22 - ATLANTA 21 ................ 4 plays, 21 yards, 1:49 drive, 2:59 elapsed

FINAL SCORE: GREEN BAY 22 - ATLANTA 21


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http://www.packers.com/gameday/game/2013/regular15

http://www.packers.com/assets/docs/gamebooks/2013/131215-gamebook-cowboys.pdf

15 Dec 15 ... A WIN ... PACKERS 37 - COWBOYS 36

Team Qtr Time Play Description (Extra Point) (Drive Info) Visitor Home

Cowboys 1 10:56 D.Bailey 47 yd. Field Goal (8-52, 4:04) 0 3

Packers 1 7:40 M.Crosby 57 yd. Field Goal (6-41, 3:16) 3 3

SCORE: PACKERS 3 - COWBOYS 3

DALLAS SCORES 23 UNANSWERED POINTS ...SCORE

DALLAS 26 - GREEN BAY 3

SCORE @ the Half: DALLAS 26 - GREEN BAY 3

The COMEBACK !

Packers 3 (13:15) (Shotgun) M.Flynn pass short left to J.Nelson for 13 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Pass caught left corner 8 yards deep end zone. P9 M.Crosby extra point is GOOD, Center-B.Goode, Holder-T.Masthay.

GB 10 DAL 26, 4 plays, 80 yards, 1:52 drive, 1:52 elapsed

Cowboys 3 (6:39) (Field Goal formation) D.Bailey 50 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-L.Ladouceur, Holder-C.Jones.

GB 10 DAL 29, 11 plays, 48 yards, 1 penalty, 6:35 drive, 8:27 elapsed

Packers 3 (1:13) (Shotgun) M.Flynn pass short middle to A.Quarless for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Pass complete on a "skinny slant." P14

(Kick formation) M.Crosby extra point is GOOD, Center-B.Goode, Holder-T.Masthay.

GB 17 DAL 29, 12 plays, 80 yards, 5:24 drive, 13:51 elapsed

Packers (12:55) M.Flynn pass short middle to J.Starks for 11 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Pass complete off "play action." P16

M.Crosby extra point is GOOD, Center-B.Goode, Holder-T.Masthay.

GB 24 DAL 29, 5 plays, 22 yards, 2:14 drive, 2:13 elapsed

Cowboys 4 (8:04) T.Romo pass short right to D.Bryant for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN. P26

D.Bailey extra point is GOOD, Center-L.Ladouceur, Holder-C.Jones.

GB 24 DAL 36, 10 plays, 80 yards, 2 penalties, 4:52 drive, 7:05 elapsed

Packers 4 (4:23) (Shotgun) M.Flynn pass short left to J.Jones for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN. P21

M.Crosby extra point is GOOD, Center-B.Goode, Holder-T.Masthay.

GB 31 DAL 36, 10 plays, 80 yards, 3:38 drive, 10:43 elapsed

Packers 4 (1:34) E.Lacy up the middle for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN. R26

TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. M.Flynn pass to A.Quarless is incomplete. ATTEMPT FAILS.

GB 37 - DAL 36, 7 plays, 50 yards, 1 penalty, 1:15 drive, 13:29 elapsed


FINAL SCORE: GREEN BAY 37 - DALLAS 36

[Fritz]

For James Starks, Eddie Lacey is the MVP because his play allowed Starks to stay healthy and now Starks is going to get a pretty decent contract from some other team, which will mistakenly think Starks will stay healthy and be a major force for the season.