TT Speaks, sort of...

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I'm glad to finally be free of Raji.

don't be so certain yet

ted has proven that his best ability is to greatly overpay for his own mediocre talent

it wouldn't surprise me if raji hits the open market, fines out no one will pay him over 8 million, or even 5 million, then ends up back in GB for 7.5 million a year

thats how ted rolls

[mraynrand]

hey, hawk actually had pretty good coverage on him to be honest. not many guys (LB, CB, or S) could cover him 1v1 on that route. thats why it was important for the safety to be there, which he wasn't

brad jones would have pissed himself at the line of scrimmage and fallen down, but not before taking out one of his own guys

Hawk had perfect coverage, he just couldn't make a play, just like the rest of his career.

[smuggler]

don't be so certain yet

ted has proven that his best ability is to greatly overpay for his own mediocre talent

it wouldn't surprise me if raji hits the open market, fines out no one will pay him over 8 million, or even 5 million, then ends up back in GB for 7.5 million a year

thats how ted rolls

Fuck that. As for being in a cage in Raji's basement....

God knows he tried, but he was too slow to ever catch me.

[Pugger]

i think these guys (TT and m3) have blown so much smoke up each others asses that they believe the sole reason we looked like shit this year was because of injuries

nevermind that that the safeties and ILB's that had one error after another were the guys who were suppose to be starters from day one

nevermind that the offense had massive red zone issues even early in the season when there were no injuries on offense

nevermind that every single year our coverage units on special teams is horrid

everything is fine, no reason for concern

Most of your post is directed at one position - safety. This has been a real problem since Collins 'retired' and unfortunately that position has been wanting in the past 2 drafts (and it doesn't appear to be all that great this year either). There were a couple of nice safeties in the draft last year but they were long gone by the time we picked. ST is hurt by injuries because our best ST players had to start and we were stuck with real green players in their stead (and those kids starting instead are not as good as the guys they are replacing). Having Slocum running that show doesn't help either. But if we can shore up the safety position, get a better ILBer and hope Datone/Worthy/Neal and our OLBers generate some pass rush that will go a long way towards fixing this defense of ours.

[Bretsky]

Most of your post is directed at one position - safety. This has been a real problem since Collins 'retired' and unfortunately that position has been wanting in the past 2 drafts (and it doesn't appear to be all that great this year either). There were a couple of nice safeties in the draft last year but they were long gone by the time we picked. ST is hurt by injuries because our best ST players had to start and we were stuck with real green players in their stead (and those kids starting instead are not as good as the guys they are replacing). Having Slocum running that show doesn't help either. But if we can shore up the safety position, get a better ILBer and hope Datone/Worthy/Neal and our OLBers generate some pass rush that will go a long way towards fixing this defense of ours.

You kind of sounds like mm with this; we've had problems with ST year after year after year on coverage but it keeps getting swept aside. We had terrilbe injuries to the OL but we were still decent there.

I agree TT has failed at Safety but I think Eric Reed was the only one gone. Matt Elam, picked about six slots later, was ripe for the picking if we wanted him. TT needs to go and get somebody talented and reliable and stop asking the coaches to make Angus Beef out of Doggy dodoo

[Rutnstrut]

don't be so certain yet

ted has proven that his best ability is to greatly overpay for his own mediocre talent

it wouldn't surprise me if raji hits the open market, fines out no one will pay him over 8 million, or even 5 million, then ends up back in GB for 7.5 million a year

thats how ted rolls

I really hope not, Raji would be overpaid at 2 million.

[woodbuck27]

I'm glad to finally be free of Raji.

Let's hope it works out that way.

Your sister/wife would be more effective on the Packers DL.

[woodbuck27]

don't be so certain yet

ted has proven that his best ability is to greatly overpay for his own mediocre talent

it wouldn't surprise me if raji hits the open market, fines out no one will pay him over 8 million, or even 5 million, then ends up back in GB for 7.5 million a year

thats how ted rolls

Ted does have difficulty admitting that he's ever made an error even when that error is over the TOP too obvious.

[ThunderDan]

don't be so certain yet

ted has proven that his best ability is to greatly overpay for his own mediocre talent

it wouldn't surprise me if raji hits the open market, fines out no one will pay him over 8 million, or even 5 million, then ends up back in GB for 7.5 million a year

thats how ted rolls

Red, just take a step back and honestly ask yourself who is TT overpaying?

Hawk was restructured.
Crosby was restructured.
Tramon will mostly likely be restructured.
B Jones might get restructured or cut.
Raji was offer $8M I am sure the offer is much less now.
Gregg Jennings was offered more than the Vikings finally gave him.
Burnett will be given another year to see if he is worth his contract or cut after 2014 season.
James Jones is on the team for a lot less than originally offered by TT when JJ rolled the dice and got a case of the drops.

It is laughable that TT overpays anyone for more than a year on our team. If a player doesn't perform he gets restructured, cut or let go.

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Red, just take a step back and honestly ask yourself who is TT overpaying?

Hawk was restructured.
Crosby was restructured.
Tramon will mostly likely be restructured.
B Jones might get restructured or cut.
Raji was offer $8M I am sure the offer is much less now.
Gregg Jennings was offered more than the Vikings finally gave him.
Burnett will be given another year to see if he is worth his contract or cut after 2014 season.
James Jones is on the team for a lot less than originally offered by TT when JJ rolled the dice and got a case of the drops.

It is laughable that TT overpays anyone for more than a year on our team. If a player doesn't perform he gets restructured, cut or let go.

hawk is still overpaid even after the restructure, he's set to be the 8th highest cap number for a ILB next season. is he a top 10 ILB? i'd say no
brad jones contract is just insane
tramon is being paid like a top 5 cb in the nfl. he is not close to a top 5 CB. and there's no guarantee that a player is going to restructure and just give up money.

crosby's contract i'm fine with as long as he doesn't play like he did in 2012

finley was paid like a top 5 TE, he has never come close to playing at that level IMO
the morgan burnett deal is even worse then the brad jones deal because we can't cut burnett for another couple years because the cap hit will be greater then the crazy amount we're going to be overpaying one of the worst starting safeties in the NFL

raji was offered top linemen money even after last season (2012) when it started to become obvious that he wasn't doing anything in our system.

[ThunderDan]

hawk is still overpaid even after the restructure, he's set to be the 8th highest cap number for a ILB next season. is he a top 10 ILB? i'd say no
brad jones contract is just insane
tramon is being paid like a top 5 cb in the nfl. he is not close to a top 5 CB. and there's no guarantee that a player is going to restructure and just give up money.

crosby's contract i'm fine with as long as he doesn't play like he did in 2012

finley was paid like a top 5 TE, he has never come close to playing at that level IMO
the morgan burnett deal is even worse then the brad jones deal because we can't cut burnett for another couple years because the cap hit will be greater then the crazy amount we're going to be overpaying one of the worst starting safeties in the NFL

raji was offered top linemen money even after last season (2012) when it started to become obvious that he wasn't doing anything in our system.

Burnett is the only player I am really worried about. Hopefully getting another S who knows what they are doing will help his play. Cutting him gets a little better after next year.

Raji got the offer said no; I guarantee the offer is no where near what was offered last time.

James Jones did the same thing and came back to the Pack and has way over performed his contract.

Gregg Jennings did the same thing and then couldn't swallow his ego and signed in MINN for less.

I don't remember Hawks contract being that high anymore after the restructure. He probably earned the least per snap on the D as he was healthy and available for every game.

[ThunderDan]

Also, players are restructured all the time.

On NFL radio they were talking about this. The GM comes into the veteran player and says we really want to keep you but Rookie X has potential and costs millions less than you. If you restructure your contract we will keep you on the roster. He says it happens to at least a couple of players every year per team. No agent or player is going to go to the press about this and the management doesn't either.

[Bretsky]

IMO Brad Jones wins the Captain Obvious award for being paid way too much. The orginal contract for Hawk was a bit high but we needed him to stay at that point. I defended the Finley signing so I'm not going the other way there. I think think Burnett can become a player; he just needs a veteran to get back there and get him into position so he can just play.

[Pugger]

You kind of sounds like mm with this; we've had problems with ST year after year after year on coverage but it keeps getting swept aside. We had terrilbe injuries to the OL but we were still decent there.

I agree TT has failed at Safety but I think Eric Reed was the only one gone. Matt Elam, picked about six slots later, was ripe for the picking if we wanted him. TT needs to go and get somebody talented and reliable and stop asking the coaches to make Angus Beef out of Doggy dodoo

The other safety gone last year was Kenny Vaccaro. I heard he was playing well before he got hurt for the Saints.

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hawks cap hits, after the restructure were

5.2 million in 2013 ranking him him at #8 for ILB

his hit next year is 5.1 which will rank around #15. that is before a lot of guys will be restructured

http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/nfl/2014/cap-hit/inside-linebacker/limit-25/