M.M.M.D 1.0

[woodbuck27]

And how are you contributing by judging the contributions of others?

Stop being such an asshole. rand simply pointed out what you were too lazy or stupid or busy ctrl-C'ing to read. You're a terrible person.


On topic: drafting Lamarcus Joyner would be stupid. We need a short "hard hitting" safety, especially in this division, like we need another Atari Bigby. The physical limitations WILL be magnified, exploited, and maybe even mocked, and the NFL is trying to eliminate hard hits coming from the secondary. In short Joyner will translate to an oft-penalized, oft-beaten umpa lumpa, which, while entertaining, will not help this defense.

Your judging me as a terrible person.

I'm devasted.

[mraynrand]

I'm devasted.

One can hope

Urban Dictionary: devasted - can be used as a synomyn to "poof." Means to disappear suddenly without explanation.

[Bretsky]

I'm careful to not curse players this early..........but............I'd be pretty happy if TT got the #1 TE in the draft or the #2 safety with that pick.
I think Chris Borland might be Zach Thomas as well. I'll take that in Green Bay. He was the second best LB in the State of Wisconsin last year.

[woodbuck27]

One can hope

Urban Dictionary: devasted - can be used as a synomyn to "poof." Means to disappear suddenly without explanation.

Should I be complimented that you seem somehow distracted by me? What you feel has never offered much to impress me mraynrand. That's NOT changing.

Any issue you have with me is 110% your issue. Inside of "YOU" mraynrand or what's so clearly demonstrated as rotten in you little man.

[Rodgers12]

On topic: drafting Lamarcus Joyner would be stupid. We need a short "hard hitting" safety, especially in this division, like we need another Atari Bigby. The physical limitations WILL be magnified, exploited, and maybe even mocked, and the NFL is trying to eliminate hard hits coming from the secondary. In short Joyner will translate to an oft-penalized, oft-beaten umpa lumpa, which, while entertaining, will not help this defense.

Joyner is the complete safety. Can cover very well. Can blitz very well. Not afraid to hit. Excellent special teams player. Plus, dude's the only safety in this draft class that can outrun Kaepernick.

Check this out:

[Rodgers12]

Btw, Joyner will run 4.3 at the combine. You read it here first.

Check out the breakaway speed.

[Bretsky]

TT already has a bias for bigger safeties. And in a division where we have Calvin Johnson, Brandon Marshall, and Alshon Jeffries...all giants....I'd be shocked if TT considered Joyner

[Rodgers12]

Nothing on the DL!? Do you feel comfortable at WR and TE?

There's some depth at the end positions in Datone Jones, Worthy, Neal, Daniels and maybe Jolly. As for defensive tackles, the Packers might as well play offensive linemen there. Raji, Pickett and the other DTs had problems eating offensive linemen last season, although it should be noted that Hawk and Brad Jones sucked.

Enough with fat guys!

[Rodgers12]

TT already has a bias for bigger safeties. And in a division where we have Calvin Johnson, Brandon Marshall, and Alshon Jeffries...all giants....I'd be shocked if TT considered Joyner

Sure, Ron Wolf is long retired, but "midgetry," the hatred or intolerance of short people, is still alive in some places. DuJuan Harris' signing may have opened up Thompson's mind a bit.

Seriously, some of the finest safeties in the NFL in the past decade are/were under 6'. Collins, Ed Reed, Bob Sanders, Earl Thomas.

Thompson needs to think outside the box. Joyner will be an awesome NFL FS, APRH. The guy can cover. The same can't be said about a lot of the fraudulent safeties in the league today.

[Guiness]

Joyner is the complete safety. Can cover very well. Can blitz very well. Not afraid to hit. Excellent special teams player. Plus, dude's the only safety in this draft class that can outrun Kaepernick.

Check this out:

Jesus he's small.

Not liking a lot of what I see there. Too many 'guided missile' hits, and since there isn't tackle practice in the NFL will he ever learn to tackle properly? The Bob Sanders comparison might be apt, but how long did he last in the NFL, and how many of those seasons did he play all of?

Damn, he is fast and can jump though. Shit you can't teach. Maybe it's enough, although I really don't see him as a first rounder.

[SkinBasket]

Not liking a lot of what I see there. Too many 'guided missile' hits, and since there isn't tackle practice in the NFL will he ever learn to tackle properly?

My thoughts exactly. A shorter, faster Atari Bigby.

Sure he can jump, he is black after all, but I would rather have a guy who's intercepting the ball on his feet, not desperately leaping to tip it away.

[3irty1]

Joyner seems woefully short for a Ted Thompson safety. I'm not going to be so ignorant to say he's not on Ted's board but he would have to fall far enough to represent a value that Ted can't pass up. Ed Reynolds is a lot more likely to be a Packer IMO but I really hope not. He is great at jumping routes but has AJ Hawks hips which makes him look stupid in man coverage and even stupider in open field situations with ball carriers.

[mraynrand]

Joyner... has AJ Hawks hips.

but does he have Bette Davis eyes?

[mraynrand]

My thoughts exactly. A shorter, faster Atari Bigby.

BIG HITS!!

[SkinBasket]

BIG HITZ!!!