how "green" were the members on special teams this year?

[Rutnstrut]

The thing I'm wondering is whether any of this matters much. Of the top 10 ST units in 2013, 6 failed to make the playoffs. The Packers were 19th this year according to Football Outsiders. The year they won the Super Bowl they were 26th. Yes B, Seattle's special teams were great this year. They were 5th. Well, in 2010 they were 2nd and finished 7-9. I think we know why Seattle is in the Super Bowl, and it's not ST. Their opponent in the Super Bowl had the 21st ranked unit. I think it's probably true you don't want to be one of the worst ST units, but I'm not sure having one of the top units is all that significant.

As for injuries, are we to conclude that it's just a coincidence that the Packers ST units ranked 8th in 2011, the one recent year when the Packers were relatively injury-free?

It matters a lot when your defense also sucks donkey balls.

[Patler]

It matters a lot when your defense also sucks donkey balls.

Exactly. Two good phases of the team can overcome one poor one. But one good one, no matter how good, can't overcome two bad ones for more than just some games.

[woodbuck27]

" When you don't sign veteran free agents, and only sign draft picks, college free agents and established Packer players, then you'd better hope you are banking on the right guys. Is it always best to patch from within? I like the idea of coaching guys up, letting them grow in the system and then rewarding that, but what if you are rewarding guys who have pretty much reached their apex and the team needs more? Brad Jones anyone? Could we not have gotten a better ILB than that on the open market? That's just one example. With so many roster decisions to make and our top offensive and defensive player inked for a few years, it's time to think outside the box about the possibility of finding someone who fits the scheme, is undervalued and has some experience to offer. Nobody is asking to give stupid money to someone, but if Seattle can get a Bennett and Avril for one year, then Green Bay should consider the same type of deal. Guys would come, especially because of Rodgers and they know we need help on defense, so they could be part of the solution, and in one year you'll know if they fit or not and you can always extend them if it works out with them. " Carolina _Packer

Nice post Repped.

I see in your post the same question that prevails (year to year) among some more expectant Packer fans and others that focus on the Green Bay Packers and it's approach to growing better as a TEAM.

One can "only analyze and or speculate" what's really going on behind the scenes or away from the playing field in Green Bay. That's resourced by the attitudes of players the are obviously not playing well. Observe the stuff we get and TT (Russ Ball) offers to players like Morgan Burnett (extended and floundering), Sam Shields (Give me more TT or bye bye or I have to get out of here because you were too late seeing my worth...or I need more that being a Green Bay Packer offers my life ... See Kevin Greene).

The real puzzler !! What was TT thinking offering $8 Million$ to a useless BJ Raji? Then we have to watch his plunging decline and actually wonder if TT and MM and Dom Capers would actually and seriously extend him!? What is that all about?

Does TT (Russ Ball) actually believe that bigger money is an incentive towards improved performance? It appears that's exactly the case. TT is therefore seriously misguided and I can't believe I'm actually raising this point.

I'll as it insults me as a Packer fan step away from Ted Thompson and pose this another way.

Buddy Manager wants to pay out more for an employee that is seriously under performing. I inform him then that he/she is misguided. Read he as he/she. If he protested and I cared about that person. I'd ask him what College or Organizational Management Program he graduated from? I'd ask him to think about all the money and effort that cost him? I would ask him how that Program rewards him in terms of success today? Then I would ask him to ponder whether or not he wasted his money on that piece of wallpaper that might hang somewhere or in some obscure place.

Why!? I'm positive he was more than likely misguided in several area of importance and good management as a grad of that program. Most of which ( 9 months away from that academic environment ) he's forgotten or not using today. If you want bad in any hire. Get him all educated to the yip yoe and shove him in an office.

This isn't the case in Green Bay except for Ted Thompson. I'll cut right through all of the bullshit. Ted Thompson is the key to us solving any issue and progress in the Green bay Packer Organization. It's my position that Ted Thompson isn't doing his job. It's my position that Ted Thompson has to change dramatically or go.

The people who do the real work in an organization or must be relied upon daily to see success will not bump up success to a higher place with more pay for doing slightly more or the same in terms of effort and results. SEE STATISTICS. STATISTICS are numbers that prove any point in terms of being objective in analysis.

In GREEN BAY one of the new chants is "statistics are for losers".

Mike McCarthy has become certainly defensive before the press this past year. I see Mike McCarthy like this:

Does anyone have a problem with that? If so I don't give a damn. Don't ask that! I'm not going to answer that question. Ask the person that might be able to answer that question. I know that person isn't often available for anything. What do you want me to say about that? I have too much to do in terms of reacting to a change (s) in the Packer CULTURE. NO! I don't have a clue why stuff happens around me and affects my CULTURE. I'm just the damn coach here and me and my staff are outstanding in our job's. We are part of an Organization Of Excellence. Any more stupid questions?Uhh!? Uhh? OK then...bye. MM

Why is MM that way?

Ted Thompson.