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  • Originally posted by wist43 View Post
    I'd be okay with a DL or OLB if I had any faith that the guy would even be used. And if you do take a guy at those positions, and he does play a lot - then you're going to have to sit one of the previous high draft picks.

    Are we ready to admit that Perry is a bust?? Is Neal gone after next year?? Raji will likely be gone...

    I would agree that drafting a front seven guy could be argued as perfectly logical - but we already have a shit-ton of those guys standing on the sideline whenever dunderdummy goes to his beloved fancy pants defenses - which is more often than not.

    If 1st and 10, and 2nd and 6 are nickel situations to dunderdummy - what the bloody hell do we have any use for a guy like Nix??

    You are not pinning Perry being a bust on Dom; there are many Captain Obvious Posters...myself/Lurker...etc..included...who noted Perry was a terrible fit for a 3-4 and anybody who drafted him in the 3-4 would need to try to fit his skills into something he was not natural at. Then once we drafted him the Homer Wagon got all loaded up.
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    • Hard to say he doesn't fit this or that, when he's been injured so much but has shown glimpses of being able to make the transition. Not all 3-4 OLBs are good cover guys. The DC has to be able to hide some weaknesses at times. Injuries have been his big issue. He'd be better a 4-3 DE than 3-4 OLB, but I think he'd be capable of making the transition if he stayed healthy.
      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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      • Originally posted by wist43 View Post
        I just don't know what the point would be of drafting another DL or OLB high in the draft. We have a shit-ton of front seven players that are all pretty good, but dunderdummy wastes their talent - so why bring in more guys just to have them stand on the sideline??

        Our weakest front seven position is ILB - but somehow, dunderdummy dreams up gameplans in which they are on the field for every play, while players like Perry and D.Jones are on the sideline - or if they are on the field, they are misused.

        Outside of ILB, any pick in the front seven will be a waste b/c of dunderdummy. It's why signing Peppers was probably a waste - TT hasn't figured out that the problem isn't the players he's drafting - it's dunderdummy.
        Dunderdummy !?

        Is he like this fella?
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        • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
          I wouldn't be as upset as some here if TT took Nix so that the team could develop a much-needed true nose tackle for the defense.

          I am afraid that Mosely's shoulder problem will come back to haunt him; I'm not convinced Pryor or Clinton-Dix will be there to take, and I'm less sold on Clinton-Dix now anyway - he seems like he'll be an okay, serviceable guy but not much more. I don't want that for a first round pick (unless you can get your pro bowler with your next pick or two). Watching the little bit of Shazier tape that I did makes him seem less impressive than I'd hoped.

          The wide receivers I don't know much about. But I know a defense starts with a stout middle. And Raji is a one-year rental - if he plays well he'll leave; if he plays poorly he'll be gone.
          Fritz:

          I wouldn't be surprized at all if Notre Dame DT Louis Nix isn't TT's guy. DT's Ra'Shede Hageman - Minnesota and Timmy Jernigan - Florida State are right there as well.

          DT - Ra'Shede Hageman - Minnesota

          Latest on DT Ra'Shede Hageman including news, stats, videos, highlights and more on NFL.com


          DT - Louis Nix - Notre Dame:

          Latest on DT Louis Nix including news, stats, videos, highlights and more on NFL.com


          DT - Timmy Jernigan - Florida State:

          Latest on DT Timmy Jernigan including news, stats, videos, highlights and more on NFL.com



          Other prospects for the DL that will be in play:

          DE's:

          Stephon Tuitt - Notre Dame:

          Latest on DE Stephon Tuitt including news, stats, videos, highlights and more on NFL.com


          AND:

          Demarcus Lawrence - Boise State :

          Latest on DE DeMarcus Lawrence including news, stats, videos, highlights and more on NFL.com



          I hope that TT knuckles down to using Pick NO. 21.

          What if TT chose Xavier Su'a-Filo - OG - UCLA as his boards BPA?

          Latest on G Xavier Su'a-Filo including news, stats, videos, highlights and more on NFL.com


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          • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
            You are not pinning Perry being a bust on Dom; there are many Captain Obvious Posters...myself/Lurker...etc..included...who noted Perry was a terrible fit for a 3-4 and anybody who drafted him in the 3-4 would need to try to fit his skills into something he was not natural at. Then once we drafted him the Homer Wagon got all loaded up.
            I was one of those that didn't want Perry, b/c he was a poor fit and stated up front that he didn't want to play LB.

            Once he was here - okay fine, go ahead and try and see if the fish can walk on 2 legs when he is out of water - didn't take long to see that Perry was stiff, uninstinctive, unaware, and simply did not a fit at LB in the least.

            Did dunderdummy admit it wasn't a good fit and find a way to make it work?? Of course not, he just kept on course - when Perry was available. I have no idea why Raji resigned - when it was obvious he was being misused too, and it killed his attitude. Almost everyone in that front seven should be running for the exits as soon as their contract is up.

            The only 2 guys on the entire defense who should be absolutely thrilled with dunderdummy are AJ Hawk and Brad Jones - the 2 players who should be coming off the field ASAP in any subpackage, are the 2 players who remain on the field as a constant... so even in their overuse, they are misused as well.

            As a result, we've had one of the worst defenses in the league the last few years - and in '12 when the stats weren't entirely horrific, we endured one of the most embarrassing ass whippings in NFL history as the Niners destroyed dunderdummy.

            The sun not shining is dunderdummy's fault, our currency being debauched in dunderdummy's fault, Kim Kardashian's bad hair day is dunderdummy's fault - dunderdummy is the devil with spraypainted hair.
            wist

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            • "Once he was here - okay fine, go ahead and try and see if the fish can walk on 2 legs when he is out of water - didn't take long to see that Perry was stiff, uninstinctive, unaware, and simply did not a fit at LB in the least."


              Good thing the scheme largely had him near the LOS. Perry pass rushed and played run D like a lineman. And yes, he looked pretty lost in coverage, so (when he was healthy) they didn't ask him to do that all that often.
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              • Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                Dunderdummy !?

                Is he like this fella?


                Maybe we need to resort to bags over our heads whenever the defense is on the field??
                wist

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                • Originally posted by wist43 View Post


                  Maybe we need to resort to bags over our heads whenever the defense is on the field??
                  This is a better choice for Dunderdummy:

                  Dom Capers as a caricature and Dunderdummy:

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                  • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                    You are not pinning Perry being a bust on Dom; there are many Captain Obvious Posters...myself/Lurker...etc..included...who noted Perry was a terrible fit for a 3-4 and anybody who drafted him in the 3-4 would need to try to fit his skills into something he was not natural at. Then once we drafted him the Homer Wagon got all loaded up.
                    Solid pass rusher in college but just not for the Packers "D".

                    The glamour pick that had to be avoided by TT.


                    Damn ......................... I hope I'm wrong.
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                    • Originally posted by wist43 View Post


                      Maybe we need to resort to bags over our heads whenever the defense is on the field??
                      Fangio is now celebrated as one of the best DCs, largely because he was working from a stacked deck in San Fran.

                      So the bagman was, like every other fan, mis-diagnosing the problem.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        Fangio is now celebrated as one of the best DCs, largely because he was working from a stacked deck in San Fran.

                        So the bagman was, like every other fan, mis-diagnosing the problem.
                        Who's Cassery?

                        Does he mean Charlie Casserly?

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                        • It was pretty obvious early on that Perry needed to be played with his hand in the dirt - draw it up, WTF is so hard about that??

                          Now we have a complete, unmitigated mess on our hands b/c we have a shit-ton invested in our DL, but have a Def Coord that is committed to standing them on the sideline, while slugs like AJ Hawk and Brad Jones flounder around on the field.

                          Now we're going to see heavy doses of his idiotic 2-4 with Matthews, Peppers, someone, and someone on the line - and Brad Jones and AJ Hawk standing there and smiling in the middle of the field - while who, is standing on the sideline?? Daniels, Perry, Neal, D. Jones, Raji, Worthy and Mulumba (whose upside I like more than BJones and Hawk combined)??

                          What is wrong with that picture??
                          wist

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                          • Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                            Now we're going to see heavy doses of his idiotic 2-4 with Matthews, Peppers, someone, and someone on the line - and Brad Jones and AJ Hawk standing there and smiling in the middle of the field - while who, is standing on the sideline?? Daniels, Perry, Neal, D. Jones, Raji, Worthy and Mulumba (whose upside I like more than BJones and Hawk combined)??

                            What is wrong with that picture??
                            That two of those bolded will also be on the field.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • Maybe Dom reads Packerrats, and one day, for one play - say, a third and two - he'll send out a 6-1-4 alignment, just for Wist.
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                              • Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                                Who's Cassery?

                                Does he mean Charlie Casserly?

                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charley_Casserly
                                Palmer was Chris Palmer who was fired as OC in season.

                                Casserly was the GM who was squeezed out post season

                                Capers was, well, ya know who he was.

                                Fangio was DC and was canned with Caper's staff in Jan.

                                Bag fan forgot the ST coach, a usual fan whipping boy.

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