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  • #16
    Originally posted by Patler View Post
    Burnett hasn't used the injury as an excuse. The coaching staff hasn't used it as an excuse. However, the simple fact remains that sometimes guys play with injuries that adversely affect how they play. Tramon Williams came back and played in 2011, but it was obvious that the injury affected how he played. He was in no way shape or form the same player that year. Could be the same with Burnett this year, we just don't know.

    Burnett's injury was serious enough that he was out 5 weeks. That is significant. Probably more serious than the injury that kept Jennings out for two weeks.

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    I think it took until the middle of THIS season before Tramon's shoulder was right again.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Pugger View Post
      I think it took until the middle of THIS season before Tramon's shoulder was right again.
      Which makes a kind of sense. Somewhere in one of the write-ups about his injury, it was mentioned that it could take years for the nerves to regenerate.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #18
        Obviously, it's possible. Burnett was solid the previous year or two. Instead of improving, he regressed. I could see him not improving. Maybe he won't get any better than he's shown. However, for him to regress like he did it's possible the injury affected him.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #19
          Originally posted by packer4life View Post
          Glad you took my statement so literally. I was simply musing that our trainers are way too conservative.

          Anyway, I agree with above poster who claims once you are in, step up your game and don't use injuries as excuses.

          Burnett blew this year, nuff said.
          What is bolded is defensible, and I mostly agree but they are separate items and I don't know that anyone was using injuries as excuses - (except me!)
          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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          • #20
            He missed a lot of tackles and seeing him late to give help to the DB's was not uncommon.
            I'd comment on him being out of position at times, but I wonder if he was trying to cover up someone else's mistake.

            Injury might have been a factor, but I'd think that wouldn't have been an issue later in the season.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Patler View Post
              Thanks. A catchy headline just grabs readers and pulls them in!
              Wild speculation, like stating that he would have only missed 2-3 weeks on another team also helps gin up excitement, even if no basis for it is present.
              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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              • #22
                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                Obviously, it's possible. Burnett was solid the previous year or two. Instead of improving, he regressed. I could see him not improving. Maybe he won't get any better than he's shown. However, for him to regress like he did it's possible the injury affected him.
                Its also possible (but I'm not buying my own BS) that working with subpar talent next to him affected his game. Worrying about what MD Jennings might fuck up next could have caused him to lose a step on his responsibilities while straightening out others.
                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                  Injury might have been a factor, but I'd think that wouldn't have been an issue later in the season.
                  I don't know, I've been around a lot of hockey players who had significant muscle injuries to their legs, and while we were able to get them back on the ice, they never were "right" until the following off season. Just never had the same acceleration and quickness.

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                  • #24
                    He's not the only Safety that had a down season on our team. Jennings doesn't come with the expectations that Burnett does but he too went from generally reliable to tire fire. In fact the whole secondary played much worse than a sum of its parts should play and that's been a trend.
                    70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
                      He's not the only Safety that had a down season on our team. Jennings doesn't come with the expectations that Burnett does but he too went from generally reliable to tire fire. In fact the whole secondary played much worse than a sum of its parts should play and that's been a trend.
                      That is certainly true at Safety. Darren Perry has had zero success developing young talent. I wonder if TT and MM are having doubts about him, or if they feel the problem is the talent he's had to work with. I think the situation at Corner is a bit better. If they sign Shields, and get Hayward back to 2012 form, I think that area is a strength.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #26
                        Forgot who mentioned it earlier in the thread, but a hamstring does not discount missed assignments. Possibly he played slower because of the hammy, but there were blown deep coverages on a very consistent basis this year. Maybe that was MD or McMillian, but Burnett is responsible for making the calls. He regressed physically and possibly mentally.

                        At least he can only go up from where he is currently.
                        Originally posted by 3irty1
                        This is museum quality stupidity.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Zool View Post
                          Forgot who mentioned it earlier in the thread, but a hamstring does not discount missed assignments. Possibly he played slower because of the hammy, but there were blown deep coverages on a very consistent basis this year. Maybe that was MD or McMillian, but Burnett is responsible for making the calls. He regressed physically and possibly mentally.

                          At least he can only go up from where he is currently.
                          Probably both. Not making fun of the guy, but go watch one of his interviews on packers.com he stands with his mouth open and seems kind of slow.
                          Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
                            He's not the only Safety that had a down season on our team. Jennings doesn't come with the expectations that Burnett does but he too went from generally reliable to tire fire. In fact the whole secondary played much worse than a sum of its parts should play and that's been a trend.
                            And the coaching there is more of a mystery than Greene and his OLBs.

                            Whitt developed Shields and Hayward fast, has got Tramon back now healthy and playing well and House is all over the place since last training camp. He has had a few misses but Hayward, Shields and it looks like Hyde represent pretty good work.

                            Perry has a high draft pick and leftovers and hasn't made a pleasant tasting hash yet. If you had told me one D Assistant was gone this year, my guess would have been one of the backfield guys, Perry as my first guess.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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