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  • As a fan, what is tougher....?

    What type of Super Bowl loss is tougher to take:

    - a game that goes down to the wire, that you know you could have won but for a play or two; or
    - a game in which you are totally embarrassed, a game that is over 12 seconds into the 2nd half?

  • #2
    Because I prefer to look ahead, the latter would be worse. The former gives me confidence that my team could win it all next year. The latter does not.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
      Because I prefer to look ahead, the latter would be worse. The former gives me confidence that my team could win it all next year. The latter does not.
      Me too. I always found hard fought losses, no matter how close, easier to accept than a blow-out loss.

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      • #4
        Hard fought loss is always better. Just getting embarrassed is never a good thing.
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        • #5
          I think a close loss leads to a lot more second guessing and what-if analysis. It lingers a whole lot longer.

          A blowout loss just leads to shell-shock.

          Not SB's, but look at the games that still get mentioned here - Young to TO, 4th and 26, the loss at Arizona in OT, Fail Mary. For me, those games are much harder to watch or discuss then the Favre 6 INT game at STL, for example.

          And I'm sorry in advance for ruining anyone's Monday morning by mentioning those games.
          Go PACK

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bossman641 View Post
            I think a close loss leads to a lot more second guessing and what-if analysis. It lingers a whole lot longer.

            A blowout loss just leads to shell-shock.

            Not SB's, but look at the games that still get mentioned here - Young to TO, 4th and 26, the loss at Arizona in OT, Fail Mary. For me, those games are much harder to watch or discuss then the Favre 6 INT game at STL, for example.

            And I'm sorry in advance for ruining anyone's Monday morning by mentioning those games.
            My thoughts exactly.

            I still remember the putts I missed when I missed qualifying for the US Open in 1997 by two strokes. When I missed a cut I just shrugged it off and drove to the next city.
            But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

            -Tim Harmston

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
              My thoughts exactly.

              I still remember the putts I missed when I missed qualifying for the US Open in 1997 by two strokes. When I missed a cut I just shrugged it off and drove to the next city.
              That is as a competitor. Is it different for a noncompetitor?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bossman641 View Post
                I think a close loss leads to a lot more second guessing and what-if analysis. It lingers a whole lot longer.

                A blowout loss just leads to shell-shock.

                Not SB's, but look at the games that still get mentioned here - Young to TO, 4th and 26, the loss at Arizona in OT, Fail Mary. For me, those games are much harder to watch or discuss then the Favre 6 INT game at STL, for example.

                And I'm sorry in advance for ruining anyone's Monday morning by mentioning those games.
                You do have a point though. I can't get myself to watch those games because I always think of what if. The 6 pick game in STL you know you had no chance so even when you watch it you don't care. With that said, isn't what could have been better than we had no chance? I think so.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Patler View Post
                  That is as a competitor. Is it different for a noncompetitor?
                  I still think I do the what ifs for the Packers also.

                  This season isn't as bad. If you asked at the beginning of the season how the Packers would do if you knew ARod and Matthews would each be out 8 or more weeks I would of said 6-10. That the team clawed and scraped to 8-7-1 makes me feel OK about the season.

                  Maybe the disappointment has more to do with the potential of the teams at that point. 4th and 26th hurt a lot.

                  TT certainly has a lot to look to fix on the defensive side of the ball. We need more talent at S, ILB and DL.
                  But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                  -Tim Harmston

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                  • #10
                    I'd go with the blowout losses are worse. As a fan you get the feeling that your team didn't even deserve to be there.
                    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                      I still think I do the what ifs for the Packers also.

                      This season isn't as bad. If you asked at the beginning of the season how the Packers would do if you knew ARod and Matthews would each be out 8 or more weeks I would of said 6-10. That the team clawed and scraped to 8-7-1 makes me feel OK about the season.

                      Maybe the disappointment has more to do with the potential of the teams at that point. 4th and 26th hurt a lot.

                      TT certainly has a lot to look to fix on the defensive side of the ball. We need more talent at S, ILB and DL.
                      This season is just a big shrug for me. Hard to get too excited either way. Can't say that I saw them claw and scratch too much without Rodgers. They had some very winnable games in that time. I guess the comeback against MN showed some character, but I don't think it should have been that close even without Rodgers.

                      The defense makes my head spin. Collins-Hawk-Harrell-Lee-Raji-Matthews-Neal-Perry-Worthy-Hayward-Jones, all first and second round draft picks. Hodge-Rouse-Burnett in third rounds. While I certainly do not blame him for injuries, I am still asking myself what the heck is going on? Not a lot to show for all those picks, but there is still a chance for some of them. You would expect to have the guts of your defense come from those picks.

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                      • #12
                        I'll take the close loss any day, hands down. Part is because I'm a fan of the game, and I like a good game. The blow outs (either way) are the games where people fall asleep on the couch, drift in an out and groggily ask "Is it over?" The close games have you pacing the room, with a football in your hand, screaming and jumping around. For most of us the experience is completely vicarious, so the more exciting the better. Also, when you're close you can play the 'if' game and it's for real - if Hyde only had jumped an inch higher, the Packers win. We were competitive. That's good stuff.
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                        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Patler View Post
                          This season is just a big shrug for me. Hard to get too excited either way. Can't say that I saw them claw and scratch too much without Rodgers. They had some very winnable games in that time. I guess the comeback against MN showed some character, but I don't think it should have been that close even without Rodgers.
                          Hmmm...when Rodgers and all the injured guys were out, I was making comments that I hadn't planned on watching more exhibition football. Some of it was dreadful.

                          But the wins at Dallas and Chicago made the season. Those were great games and we won in Dallas and we beat our longest-standing rivals in another elimination game, and it was in the most exciting fashion possible. Tell me that wasn't even more exciting than Favre to Sharpe in 1993 at Detroit. Those two games are indelible marks on a lifetime - 40 years - of watching the Packers.
                          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                          • #14
                            Overall, prefer close losses because as we have seen with Rodgers, that means the team is competitive.

                            But for my own peace of mind, I am with Dan and Bossman. far more difficult teasing out the lessons of the close loss than the blowout. As a fan, this is probably an illusion because I don't and perhaps can't know why or what to do about it, but that is how I spend my time as a fan.

                            Its easier to come up with a shopping list when the cupboards are bare.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #15
                              Getting blown out is embarrassing bullshit. Give me the heartbreaker anytime, at least it makes for good TV.

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