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    Random, but I just realized he is a free agent...Should the packers bring him back if he comes back cheap? If he's willing to sign a cheap one year deal why not? Would at least be a good insurance policy in case we can't land a decent safety in the draft. Even at 37 he can't be worse than MD Jennings.

    His stats last year:

    97 tackles, 2 sacks, 3 FF, 1 int (4 turnover plays for Woodson > 0 for Burnett/Jennings). That's pretty impressive at his age and learning a new defense. I just miss his presence on the team.
    Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

  • #2
    Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD View Post
    Random, but I just realized he is a free agent...Should the packers bring him back if he comes back cheap? If he's willing to sign a cheap one year deal why not? Would at least be a good insurance policy in case we can't land a decent safety in the draft. Even at 37 he can't be worse than MD Jennings.

    His stats last year:

    97 tackles, 2 sacks, 3 FF, 1 int (4 turnover plays for Woodson > 0 for Burnett/Jennings). That's pretty impressive at his age and learning a new defense. I just miss his presence on the team.
    I am surprised by his stat line. I saw some articles early in the year that said he was playing poorly.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Patler View Post
      I am surprised by his stat line. I saw some articles early in the year that said he was playing poorly.
      Maybe in coverage? But looking at his stats I see a player who still knows how to create turnovers and knows how to tackle. Two things MD Jennings can't do. And he can't be worse than Jennings in coverage.
      Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD View Post
        Random, but I just realized he is a free agent...Should the packers bring him back if he comes back cheap? If he's willing to sign a cheap one year deal why not? Would at least be a good insurance policy in case we can't land a decent safety in the draft. Even at 37 he can't be worse than MD Jennings.

        His stats last year:

        97 tackles, 2 sacks, 3 FF, 1 int (4 turnover plays for Woodson > 0 for Burnett/Jennings). That's pretty impressive at his age and learning a new defense. I just miss his presence on the team.
        Maybe as a coach....If the choices at safety for the 2014 Packers boil down to Woodson or MD Jennings then I think I will opt to take a year's hiatus from watching the Pack.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by hoosier View Post
          Maybe as a coach....If the choices at safety for the 2014 Packers boil down to Woodson or MD Jennings then I think I will opt to take a year's hiatus from watching the Pack.
          Lol really.... Well you aren't giving Woodson enough respect. He is 100 X better than Jennings even at 37 imo. Honestly, the way TT operates its either Jennings or a rook. The safety position is not the deepest position in the draft so you might want to start preparing for the 2015 season. Decent chance he doesn't take a safety high or find one good enough to start as a rookie. I'm hoping he signs a free agent safety and Woodson would be as good as any after the top 2 or 3 are signed (chances are players he probably isn't going after).
          Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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          • #6
            Does the best player on a terrible defense get inflated stats as a result?
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #7
              Abscence makes the heart grow fond...

              He was pretty bad his last year with the Pack, the risk taking was still there, but the athleticism to pull it off and any hint of catch-up speed when the gamble failed was a fading memory. After another year, it can only be worse.
              --
              Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                Does the best player on a terrible defense get inflated stats as a result?
                Good point. Usually, a lot of tackles by a DB is more of an indictment of the front 7 than credit to the DB. A single interception for a safety isn't much of an accomplishment, unless you are a Packer safety. Forced fumbles is a knack that some have, and Woodson is one who does. He might still have played poorly, yet caused a few fumbles.

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                • #9
                  I'm shocked Woodson had that many tackles, except that the d-line and LBs were pretty poor. I watched about 4-5 Raiders games on DirecTV 'shortcuts' and Woodson turned down a ton of tackles. He was late to a lot of piles. 22 of those 97 are assists - the highest of his career (but makes sense playing safety). Like I said in 2012, he was better than McMillian, but not much else. Look, the dude broke his collar bone twice and you can just see he doesn't want to throw his body in there, and I don't blame him. It's a young man's game and the guy, because of his amazing physical skills and toughness, hung around a lot longer than people at his position normally do. Charles, the Russian River is calling. Enjoy the grapes.
                  "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Patler View Post
                    I am surprised by his stat line. I saw some articles early in the year that said he was playing poorly.
                    yup, he had a not so great year

                    and it looks like age has caught up with him in a big way

                    with that said, he would have been by far our best safety last season

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                    • #11
                      He really played poorly in the first four weeks or so, and then rebounded with a nice stretch before fading back into mediocrity at the end of the season.

                      This may or may not have had something to do with his competition. Please recall that the AFC is damn horrible, and Woodson would (more consistently) face better QBs in the NFC and probably just better teams overall. Just look at the NFC West. Monster division.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        Does the best player on a terrible defense get inflated stats as a result?
                        So what you're saying is... he'd have a stellar year here?
                        - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Smeefers View Post
                          So what you're saying is... he'd have a stellar year here?
                          Either that or he would break the bank in comparison.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Patler View Post
                            I am surprised by his stat line. I saw some articles early in the year that said he was playing poorly.
                            And I saw one around week 15 that said he had a surprisingly effective season. The author came across as credible, citing his poor play with GB the season before. Didn't catch a single Raider game all year though.
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • #15
                              he should have never walked. He should have been planted at safety here. end of story. TT's love affair with being one of the youngest teams has cost this team the past couple years.

                              I don't know why anyone would be surprised that he had an effective season. He was healthy. If he's healthy he was going to be somewhat effective. a lot more so than any stiff we lined up at safety. He knew the defense. he would have been in the right places and not blowing coverages left and right or missing tackle after tackle.

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