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  • #31
    Perry is definitely a fish out of water at OLB. I'm seriously hoping they move him to DE next year and find a way to bring back Neal and Shields.

    I feel like living in a fantasy world for this post...Tag Raji and trade him with our second for someones first. Then draft Clinton-dix and Mosley round one.

    ................Burnett.........Clinton-dix

    Shields........................................... .Williams
    Hayward..........................................H yde
    House

    ....................Hawk....Mosley (Lattimore)
    Matthews...................................Neal (Palmer/Mulumba)
    ................Perry...Draft pick...Jones (Daniels/Worthy/Boyd)

    Defense fixed! Okay back to real life now.
    Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by smuggler View Post
      Raji is not good at doing what Capers asks him to do. We already know that Capers won't change the scheme and the Packers won't change the DC.

      Even if Raji is better than whomever we could replace him with, he's not $4mil or $6mil a year better, so he's gone. Bye bye, Raji. Thanks for 2010.
      He has adjusted it, moving Raji out of the nose and 5 tech DE while playing a lot of his 3-4 Eagle Oakie, which puts Raji at a 3 tech.

      But Capers is asking him to 2 gap and occupy a blocker before moving upfield and he is terrible at it.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by wist43 View Post

        We're going to be having this same conversation next year - and Capers still won't be fired.
        The team could stop buying round pegs and buy some square ones. Raji is easy to understand as the Packers early 1st round pick. Huge, fast, quick, athletic and strong. Hard to pass up that package. Not the best fit from his profile but Thompson was retooling to a 3-4 on the fly and he got two pretty good pieces in the first round. If he's not back next year, he had two great years, two poor and one average. Not the worst way to spend a first contract. You want to do better at 9, but that's the way it works out.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #34
          I loved the Raji pick... I wanted him or Orakpo. Raji wasn't a wasted pick at 9 - in his first couple of years he was used properly, i.e. as a 1-gap penetrator and disrupter. He generated pressure, collapsed the pocket, and garnered decent sack numbers for an interior d-lineman.

          Then of course Jenkins walked, TT did nothing the help the defense in the '11 draft, and Capers decided that Raji should be something he isn't - a 2-gap, space occupying, run stuffer. Raji has been junk ever since, and our defense has sucked ever since.

          Seriously, the problem is Capers - and it is all on Capers.

          We simply cannot evaluate any of the defensive personnel as long as they are cast into roles that not only do not maximize their skill set, but in fact do the opposite. It would be like asking me to sit down and write a sentence left-handed, and then complaining that it is sloppy and unreadable - never considering that I'm strongly right-handed, and my left hand is all-but useless.

          I don't put the blame on any of the players. Capers has to go.
          wist

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          • #35
            Originally posted by wist43 View Post

            Then of course Jenkins walked, TT did nothing the help the defense in the '11 draft, and Capers decided that Raji should be something he isn't - a 2-gap, space occupying, run stuffer. Raji has been junk ever since, and our defense has sucked ever since.

            Seriously, the problem is Capers - and it is all on Capers.
            If it's all Capers, then why blame TT? Maybe Capers was just stuck with the square peg fitting the round hole that TT didn't fill. In the salary cap era, this kind of thing has been known to happen.
            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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            • #36
              Ted has drafted some weird defensive players, considering the type of defense they run. Raji is one, and Jerel Worthy is another. The dude's best traits - the quick penetration, the upfield movement - do not fit the profile of the kind of defensive lineman they need for Capers. I suspect Raji and Worthy both could do pretty well in a more traditional 4-3.

              Ted's not fitting the player to the system, I believe.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #37
                I've become more and more convinced we should take Nix. Time will tell...

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                  Ted has drafted some weird defensive players, considering the type of defense they run. Raji is one, and Jerel Worthy is another. The dude's best traits - the quick penetration, the upfield movement - do not fit the profile of the kind of defensive lineman they need for Capers. I suspect Raji and Worthy both could do pretty well in a more traditional 4-3.

                  Ted's not fitting the player to the system, I believe.
                  I don't buy it. 2010 we were coming off the 4-3 and had a ton of miscast guys....still the D was good and we won the superbowl. Losing Collins, aging Woodson, losing Bishop were bad blows.
                  The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                    I don't buy it. 2010 we were coming off the 4-3 and had a ton of miscast guys....still the D was good and we won the superbowl. Losing Collins, aging Woodson, losing Bishop were bad blows.
                    2009 was the first year of the 3-4. That was the rookie year of Matthews and Raji.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                      2009 was the first year of the 3-4. That was the rookie year of Matthews and Raji.
                      don't trifle me with details!!
                      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                      • #41
                        Obviously I have been and am a big supporter of TT's, but at the same time I do wonder what he's doing when he drafts guys that clearly don't fit what Capers is trying to do. I mean, I kinda get Raji - you had a shot at a very talented big body, and those don't come around, but what about Worthy? And he really seemed to put all his safety eggs in the McMillan basket.

                        I just don't quite understand why he's not drafting big bulls later in the draft to eat up blockers and space, and using earlier picks on safeties and linebackers.

                        But it's easy to type behind a keyboard, so all this is just some casual fan's random observation. Maybe Worthy will turn into the next Cullen Jenkins and maybe TT will draft a safety in the fifth round who will be great immediately.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Fritz View Post

                          I just don't quite understand why he's not drafting big bulls later in the draft to eat up blockers and space, and using earlier picks on safeties and linebackers.
                          .
                          Sounds an awful lot like CJ Wilson...except that MM and Capers left him inactive all year.
                          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                          • #43
                            Good point. I wonder why his playing time fell off the map.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                              Good point. I wonder why his playing time fell off the map.
                              I think Wilson was basically replaced by Jolly. He was only active for 8 games all year. He could be back more prominently next year if Jolly is done.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                                I think Wilson was basically replaced by Jolly. He was only active for 8 games all year. He could be back more prominently next year if Jolly is done.
                                Except that he likely will go to a team that uses him.
                                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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