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    Seemed to work out pretty good for all involved IMHO

    The Bottom Line:
    Formally Numb, same person, same views of M3

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    I would have to give that transition a thumbs up.

    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #3
      Well Bush didn't get four more years, and Doyle didn't really do a good job policing gambling. But this is a Packer forum, so I don't get it.
      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • #4
        Arguably one of the best...if not the best trade ever in the NFL.
        C.H.U.D.

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        • #5
          I think Chris Havel wrote the article.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Freak Out View Post
            Arguably one of the best...if not the best trade ever in the NFL.
            I would say Dallas in the Herschel Walker trade made out better.
            But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

            -Tim Harmston

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Freak Out View Post
              Arguably one of the best...if not the best trade ever in the NFL.
              I don't know about that. The Packers invested the 19th pick for him. Worth it, sure, but they have less invested in AR than they did in Favre because the AR pick was lower.

              I think San Francisco has made two trades better than that. They got Steve Young for a 2nd round pick (#50) and a 4th round pick (#106). They gave up their first round pick (#28) and change to move up and get Jerry Rice. The change included SF's second and third picks near the end of each round but they also got a higher pick in the third in return.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                I don't know about that. The Packers invested the 19th pick for him. Worth it, sure, but they have less invested in AR than they did in Favre because the AR pick was lower.

                I think San Francisco has made two trades better than that. They got Steve Young for a 2nd round pick (#50) and a 4th round pick (#106). They gave up their first round pick (#28) and change to move up and get Jerry Rice. The change included SF's second and third picks near the end of each round but they also got a higher pick in the third in return.
                I agree on Young, not as much on Rice (or for that matter, Walker, suggested above). Even in 1992, QBs were a premium kind of thing. Even if RBs had not been as devalued (though the Viking trade would later be criticized because of it) as much as today, getting a franchise QB was a huge accomplishment.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                  I agree on Young, not as much on Rice (or for that matter, Walker, suggested above). Even in 1992, QBs were a premium kind of thing. Even if RBs had not been as devalued (though the Viking trade would later be criticized because of it) as much as today, getting a franchise QB was a huge accomplishment.
                  I agree, it is always hard evaluating any position against a QB, but in Jerry Rice they got a WR that was really, really special for most of the 103 years that he played for them. For that franchise, he was much more than just an All-Pro receiver.

                  Didn't Dallas end up with Emmitt Smith for a couple of the picks they got from MN?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Patler View Post
                    I agree, it is always hard evaluating any position against a QB, but in Jerry Rice they got a WR that was really, really special for most of the 103 years that he played for them. For that franchise, he was much more than just an All-Pro receiver.

                    Didn't Dallas end up with Emmitt Smith for a couple of the picks they got from MN?
                    Yep. Smith and Woodson directly. Russell Maryland and others more indirectly.

                    From wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herschel_Walker_trade :

                    Dallas ended up with a total of six of Minnesota's picks over the succeeding years, two 1st round and one 2nd round picks were used to draft Emmitt Smith and Darren Woodson, winning multiple Super Bowls and being voted on to go to the Pro Bowl numerous times also. Jimmy Johnson used the other draft picks to make trades with other teams around the NFL. One of the trades led to obtaining the first overall draft pick in 1991, which was used to draft Russell Maryland. In other words, the trade of Walker to the Vikings contributed largely to the Cowboys' success in the early 1990s. For this reason, ESPN.com lists it as the 8th most lopsided trade in sports history.[4] Seventeen years later, the trade was still an easy target for satire: one ESPN columnist, assessing the impact of free agency on the NFL, noted that it had almost entirely replaced significant trades and by doing so "took away one of the greatest shortcuts to becoming a Super Bowl champion: fleecing the Vikings."
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #11
                      Let us not forget, though we try, one of the greatest trades in Rams history: fleecing Dan Devine and the Green Bay Packers out of a million draft picks, most of them first rounders, for a washed-up quarterback named John Hadl.
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #12
                        Who did we trade to Atlanta in exchange for Favre that day?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                          Let us not forget, though we try, one of the greatest trades in Rams history: fleecing Dan Devine and the Green Bay Packers out of a million draft picks, most of them first rounders, for a washed-up quarterback named John Hadl.
                          The account below seems to include too many players, and I don't feel like proofing it, but at least some of this has to be accurate:

                          Rams general manager Don Klosterman used Green Bay's first-round pick of 1975 (No. 9 overall) to select defensive lineman Mike Fanning, who gave the team eight solid seasons. Klosterman used the remaining picks from the trade to assemble the core of Los Angeles' secondary for the next few seasons: Monte Jackson, Pat Thomas and Nolan Cromwell (via a trade using another of Green Bay's picks). With the rest of its picks in those two drafts, Los Angeles shored up its offensive line by drafting OG Dennis Harrah and OTs Doug France and Jackie Slater.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                            Who did we trade to Atlanta in exchange for Favre that day?
                            Tony Smith - RB

                            http://www.pro-football-reference.co...S/SmitTo00.htm

                            Far and away the best trade in Packers history. In fact, what other outstanding trades have there been in Packers history?
                            Originally posted by 3irty1
                            This is museum quality stupidity.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Zool View Post
                              In fact, what other outstanding trades have there been in Packers history?

                              Seriously? How about trading injured Fred Vinson (#47 overall 1999) for Ahman Green

                              Or better yet, trading Aaron Brooks (QB) and Lamont Hall (TE) for 2000 3rd round Pick (Steve Warren) and K. D. Williams
                              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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