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  • #46
    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
    I have seen the sample questions and the concepts are horribly difficult, its the insane time frame.
    I assume you mean not horribly difficult. 12 minutes, right? That means you have 14.4sec/question. Looking over a sample test, I'm sure I could get a perfect score if I had a minute/question, but with one quarter of that time I'm not sure.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Guiness View Post
      I assume you mean not horribly difficult. 12 minutes, right? That means you have 14.4sec/question. Looking over a sample test, I'm sure I could get a perfect score if I had a minute/question, but with one quarter of that time I'm not sure.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Guiness View Post
        I assume you mean not horribly difficult. 12 minutes, right? That means you have 14.4sec/question. Looking over a sample test, I'm sure I could get a perfect score if I had a minute/question, but with one quarter of that time I'm not sure.
        This is sort of my point, the test is pretty easy, the time is the issue. Some guys do well at that sort of thing, some don't. If you study it and go over a ton of sample questions, you are likely to see many of them on the test. When you are timed and you recognize a Q you do well because you skim it and answer it. Also if you are a grey thinker you do poorly on those tests as you tend to take some time to analyze a question. Also, this test can favor people who DON'T test well in that they rip through it and guess correctly on a handful of questions that a smarter person might not even get to. It also favors someone who reads fast and hurts someone who is a visual reader.

        Tests are just that, tests. Sometimes they aren't testing knowledge or IQ, but something else. I took a wonderlic test once and did very average, a 31. I took it a second time about an hour later, but focused on speed and scored a 42. And yes, I did 2 different versions.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
          This is sort of my point, the test is pretty easy, the time is the issue. Some guys do well at that sort of thing, some don't. If you study it and go over a ton of sample questions, you are likely to see many of them on the test. When you are timed and you recognize a Q you do well because you skim it and answer it. Also if you are a grey thinker you do poorly on those tests as you tend to take some time to analyze a question. Also, this test can favor people who DON'T test well in that they rip through it and guess correctly on a handful of questions that a smarter person might not even get to. It also favors someone who reads fast and hurts someone who is a visual reader.

          Tests are just that, tests. Sometimes they aren't testing knowledge or IQ, but something else. I took a wonderlic test once and did very average, a 31. I took it a second time about an hour later, but focused on speed and scored a 42. And yes, I did 2 different versions.
          Well put. An interesting thought though, is that football players entering the draft know how important this test is, so they must do sample tests a couple of times so they aren't going in cold (if not their agents should be shot and pissed on having cost them millions of dollars) so their results really should be indicative of their best attempts - i.e. your 42.
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          • #50
            Evidently that's not the case. Many people have scored less than 10 on those tests. (10 is the average score when answers are selected by cephalopods not named Paul)

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            • #51
              Yeah, I knew Kaepernick had a really high Wonderlic score, and he doesn't sound like a mouthbreather when interviewed, so I don't get the sense that's it's intelligence. I'd chalk it up to experience, and his ability to read defenses. For years people said Vick could only read one half of the field...I'm not sure that ever changed, although I think he did get better as a passing QB. Kaepernick's present ability to read defenses, along with his accuracy, lead me to think he's a good but not great QB. Having a cannon for an arm and being a great runner makes him more dangerous than he'd otherwise be.

              I think most agree he's not dumb.

              I wouldn't be shocked if SF signs him to a short deal like what many have mentioned. Will be nice to see some of the other playoff contenders have to pay their QBs and balance the salary cap.

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              • #52
                And San Fran had a boatload of draft picks last year or the year before, so it'll be interesting to see if those guys pan out the way Seattle's did this year.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                  Evidently that's not the case. Many people have scored less than 10 on those tests. (10 is the average score when answers are selected by cephalopods not named Paul)
                  LOL. Paul the Octopus is a better bet than Jimmy the Greek. I bet 'Ol Jimmy woulda struggled to get a 5 on the wonderlic, but he'd have a fabulous lunch afterwards, regardless.
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                  • #54
                    Jimmy was actually pretty amazing at guessing by the seat of his pants. What he was not so much amazing at? Well, you know, giving interviews.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                      And San Fran had a boatload of draft picks last year or the year before, so it'll be interesting to see if those guys pan out the way Seattle's did this year.
                      Yeah. Marcus Lattimore. Tank Carradine. Corey Lemonier. Eric Reid has already played well. Lots of players that will either pan out or flame out.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                        My thoughts exactly. He is not great. He doesn't read D's. He still uses the GPS on his wrist suggesting he can't master a gameplan during the week. The guy is ok, but paying him top 10 in the league would hamper the whiners.
                        Losing him to another team would hamper the Niners even more. Their offense is crap without his dual-threat ability, and they have to keep up with the Seahawks.

                        JAY FUCKING CUTLER, Mr. Pussy Himself, just got $126M over 7 yrs. Do you honestly think any NFL agent isn't going to push for a similar deal for Kap?
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                          Losing him to another team would hamper the Niners even more. Their offense is crap without his dual-threat ability, and they have to keep up with the Seahawks.

                          JAY FUCKING CUTLER, Mr. Pussy Himself, just got $126M over 7 yrs. Do you honestly think any NFL agent isn't going to push for a similar deal for Kap?
                          I hope he does get Cutler money. I hope he gets Peyton Manning money. I think if they still had Alex Smith they would be a very comparable team.
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                          • #58
                            I hope he does as well. 7years 125 million would be amazing.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                              I hope he does get Cutler money. I hope he gets Peyton Manning money. I think if they still had Alex Smith they would be a very comparable team.
                              Ya know, I kinda agree. What they lost in running they might have made up in passing accuracy. Probably would have lost that Seattle playoff game more soundly though, but this is pure guessing.
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                              • #60
                                I wonder if the talks with him are heating up, or if they'll wait til after free agency to start it up.
                                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

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