BILL POLIAN

[bobblehead]

If you extrapolate my last 2 months it could be reasoned that I'll be engaged to 6 women by the end of the year.

And don't forget when some MLB player is on track for 324 HR's after opening day.

[mraynrand]

I'm mainly talking about last year where they had their shit pushed in by the Vikings and Giants. This year they only lost to playoff teams although they did lose decisively like you said.

Actually, by the same logic some in here are using to say we're not on the same level as the 49ers, the 49ers aren't on the same level as the Seahawks. In the last two years they're 1 for 4 with a pair of absolute ass-kickings in there of 3-29 and 13-42.

And you have to take into consideration the reality of the NFL. The 1996 Packers were dominant, but got their asses kicked at MN, Dal, and KC.

The 1997 Packers were almost beaten by a lousy Bears team, and got beat by a 0-10 Colts team. Look at the last four 49ers-Packers games and it should be obvious that they are much more competitive. They were really never in that 2012 opener.

That doesn't mean anything about next year especially if we can't APRH and the Packers don't improve in the offseason.

[bobblehead]

I am going to assume Navarro Bowman won't be healthy to start next year. If I am wrong, I am going to accuse the SF doctors of doping.

[Joemailman]

I am going to assume Navarro Bowman won't be healthy to start next year. If I am wrong, I am going to accuse the SF doctors of doping.

If he is, Packers need to kidnap their trainers.

[pbmax]

If he is, Packers need to kidnap their trainers.

Probably easier to just pull a Trading Places on Navarro Bowman's X-Ray/MRI results and substitute bogus and unhealed pictures.

We need Clarence Biggs.

[call_me_ishmael]

If you extrapolate my last 2 months it could be reasoned that I'll be engaged to 6 women by the end of the year.

Congrats.

[smuggler]

Bowman will start the year on the PUP, I'm sure. But he should be ready for the heart of their season.

The weather in the playoff game favored San Fran, sadly. :C

[Fritz]

Can the Packers please have a healthy season in 2014? Please? I'd like to see what this team could do with a healthy, or relatively healthy, roster, especially the big dogs.

That way if they lost or had a crummy regular season, we'd at least know they lacked talent. Right now I'm not sure what they lack, except good health. And a safety to pair with Burnett.

[Guiness]

Can the Packers please have a healthy season in 2014? Please? I'd like to see what this team could do with a healthy, or relatively healthy, roster, especially the big dogs.

That way if they lost or had a crummy regular season, we'd at least know they lacked talent. Right now I'm not sure what they lack, except good health. And a safety to pair with Burnett.

+1 I feel the same way, we don't really know what the Pack has because we don't get to see it all together.

[Smeefers]

Can the Packers please have a healthy season in 2014? Please? I'd like to see what this team could do with a healthy, or relatively healthy, roster, especially the big dogs.


That way if they lost or had a crummy regular season, we'd at least know they lacked talent. Right now I'm not sure what they lack, except good health. And a safety to pair with Burnett.

It's nice to know I'm not alone. I have no idea what kind of talent we have. Is perry any good? Is hayward still a stud? Should we be worrying about our o line? How good are our WR's?

[wist43]

Injuries are a valid excuse to some extent - but the Niners are simply more talented, and much, much tougher up and down the roster than the Packers.

We're 0-4 against them the last 4 times out, and the last game was the only one that was even remotely competitive - the other 3 were mismatches, if not blowouts. The scores were closer than the games.

MM's comments regarding getting more involved on the defensive side of the ball may have been reflected in the last Niner game when Capers actually played most of the game with 3 defensive linemen on the field - something that obviously had to pain him a great deal. I'm assuming MM stopped him in the hallway of 1265 and said, "Hey, stupid...", lol...

We played them tougher last time out, but I suspect that is the absolute best we can possibly play against them, it was at home - and we still lost.

We don't play them next year - so it's a moot question at this point. We do play Seattle next year, and we're clearly not on their level anymore. The schedule next year is pretty average though, so we'll have a decent shot at making the playoffs.

[mraynrand]

the other 3 were mismatches, if not blowouts.

This is just untrue. The 2012 opener wasn't close. The 2012 playoff game was close late into the third quarter, with the defense getting blown away at the end, and last year's opener was in doubt until 6 minutes left. It was entirely competitive. You can be Debbie Downer all you want, but you don't get to change facts.

[pbmax]

Capers has played a lot of 3 lineman against the 49ers in each of the games. Not quite the same approach as the fatty-heavy game plan against the Jets in 2010, but he goes more base against them.

[wist43]

This is just untrue. The 2012 opener wasn't close. The 2012 playoff game was close late into the third quarter, with the defense getting blown away at the end, and last year's opener was in doubt until 6 minutes left. It was entirely competitive. You can be Debbie Downer all you want, but you don't get to change facts.

As I said, the scores were closer than the games - SF had their hand on our head the whole time, they were in complete control of the LOS on both sides of the ball. To me, that is where games are won and lost, so even though the score remained somewhat within reach, I never doubted we were going to lose every game.

This last one was closer though, and we were actually fairly tough in the trenches - they were tougher of course, but at least we didn't get completely embarrassed that time out.

Next year will be interesting... we're going to lose a lot of guys - Raji, Neal, Wilson, maybe Pickett, maybe Shields. Hard to imagine we could be worse on defense, but unless Jones, Worthy, Daniels, and Perry step up, we're going to be completely screwed on defense. I do like Mulumba though... hopefully he can take the next step and become an impact player.

Still, Capers is our DC - and he's a disaster, so '14 will be another wasted year. Hopefully he F's up enough to get himself fired - finally!!!

[mraynrand]

As I said, the scores were closer than the games - SF had their hand on our head the whole time, they were in complete control of the LOS on both sides of the ball.

I disagree. Go watch the tape of the Sept. game. Packers D beat the crap out of the Niners run game, but sacrificed some pass defense (90 yards rushing in 34 attempts is crap). Lacy got his yards - Packers had 63 yards in 19 attempts, and Rodgers was protected reasonably well. Both QBs got sacked twice, both teams had 23 first downs; SF had 494-385 yards.

Packers ultimately lost that game due to -2 TO margin.

I'm done here. Believe what you want.