FA WRs - 2014

[Zool]

Jones feels like another case of overvaluing your own players. While he was a TD machine last year, he was nothing outstanding for the rest of his career. He's been a good player for the Packers and a good locker room guy but doesn't seem like his on-field is that hard to duplicate in the NFL.

[3irty1]

Selling him a little short are we? Actually Jones has made many plays downfield throughout his career. Earlier in the career his problem was drops and the last two years he seems to have corrected that. We start losing weapons and start counting on a still weak defense and even making the playoffs will be a major achievement in the NFC. I'm not in favor of making our only consistent strength year in year out potentially weaker. If you lose Jones (and what looks like Finely as well) drafting a WR early becomes more important. If he comes back for 3 mil/year that's a steal. I would be concerned about him feeling slighted when Cobb and Nelson get much bigger big pay days though.

Reread what I said. I'm not downplaying his value to the Packers, just the rest of the league.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I understood your post just fine. I still think you're selling him short. I personally think he does get separation and is a very effective WR. You saying he's more valuable to the packers because Rodgers can fit balls into tight windows is the same as saying Rodgers can make any WR look good in that case. Thus why is Jones even valuable to the packers? If that's the case then Jones has no value on any team because a 7th round draft pick who doesn't get separation would work just a well and be a lot cheaper.

[mraynrand]

a 7th round draft pick who doesn't get separation would work just a well and be a lot cheaper.

More Boykins! More Drivers!

[Bretsky]

I understood your post just fine. I still think you're selling him short. I personally think he does get separation and is a very effective WR. You saying he's more valuable to the packers because Rodgers can fit balls into tight windows is the same as saying Rodgers can make any WR look good in that case. Thus why is Jones even valuable to the packers? If that's the case then Jones has no value on any team because a 7th round draft pick who doesn't get separation would work just a well and be a lot cheaper.

I don't think he gets a lot of separatoin and I think the Packers offense would excel with a new TE, Jordy, Cobb, Boykins, and Lacy. . I think the same of him as I did last round. It's fine to keep him as a value signing but if anybody wants to pay him well you pass. I'd keep the money for Nelson and Cobb.

[Patler]

TT has spoiled us, because he has had a knack for finding WRs who can contribute. But, without Jones and Finley, the cupboard is getting a bit bare. Nelson, Cobb, Boykin and..........???? It seems rather routine in recent years that most weeks at least one WR is hurting and/or not playing. I have a fear that if it happens in 2014 they will be playing with the current versions of Taco Wallace, Ruvell Martin, Rod Gardner and Antonio Chatman. I don't want to relive the years when they had a difficult time putting three decent receivers on the field.

I was really hoping one of the draft picks/FAs last year would show promise. Myles White caught a few balls, but I can't say he has me anxiously waiting to see more from him. The others, who knows?

[smuggler]

Jones on the cheap, sure. Why not? We can make the difference back easily by cutting a less valuable player like Brad Jones. Or hell, any number of other players that are less effective than James. I see no reason to cast him off. He's the kind of receiver who could be effective until he's 33 or so.

[3irty1]

I understood your post just fine. I still think you're selling him short. I personally think he does get separation and is a very effective WR. You saying he's more valuable to the packers because Rodgers can fit balls into tight windows is the same as saying Rodgers can make any WR look good in that case. Thus why is Jones even valuable to the packers? If that's the case then Jones has no value on any team because a 7th round draft pick who doesn't get separation would work just a well and be a lot cheaper.

Getting separation is just one aspect of being a WR in the NFL. I listed JJ's strengths and they're not things you can easily replace so no, its not the same as saying Rodgers can make any WR look good. Maybe you need to read my post a third time.

[mraynrand]

Myles White caught a few balls, but I can't say he has me anxiously waiting to see more from him.

Myles White is a poor man's Chris Collinsworth. A very, very poor man.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Getting separation is just one aspect of being a WR in the NFL. I listed JJ's strengths and they're not things you can easily replace so no, its not the same as saying Rodgers can make any WR look good. Maybe you need to read my post a third time.

Well maybe you just found the reason why I usually skip over your posts. Either I don't understand what you're saying or I think you're an idiot? The more posts I read I'm convinced the latter is true.

I'm pretty sure at the end of our post you said and I quote "His ability to beat press coverage, his hands, and his physical play don't matter if you can't get him the ball in a tight window." Hmm is it just me or did I not just say I disagree with that assessment. So b/c I disagree that means I didn't understand? Maybe you didn't understand what you wrote.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

TT has spoiled us, because he has had a knack for finding WRs who can contribute. But, without Jones and Finley, the cupboard is getting a bit bare. Nelson, Cobb, Boykin and..........???? It seems rather routine in recent years that most weeks at least one WR is hurting and/or not playing. I have a fear that if it happens in 2014 they will be playing with the current versions of Taco Wallace, Ruvell Martin, Rod Gardner and Antonio Chatman. I don't want to relive the years when they had a difficult time putting three decent receivers on the field.

I was really hoping one of the draft picks/FAs last year would show promise. Myles White caught a few balls, but I can't say he has me anxiously waiting to see more from him. The others, who knows?

Couldn't have said it better. Nelson, Jones, Cobb, Jennings, Driver, Finley, etc all have/had amazing talent and if people think the offense is just going to keep putting up solid numbers losing Wrs every year then guess again. If we lose Jones and Finley I seriously hope we select a Wr high.

[Brandon494]

Finley yes, but I don't see any reason to get rid of James Jones when I know the asking price won't be high. Save the high draft picks for defensive players.

[Patler]

Finley yes, but I don't see any reason to get rid of James Jones when I know the asking price won't be high. Save the high draft picks for defensive players.

That is how I would like to see it work out, but I can also envision a situation in which a team with a lack of decent receivers makes an offer to Jones that might not be extreme, but still more then the Packers are willing to pay.

People are making too much of the lack of interest shown in Jones when he was a FA the last time. He was a FA the year of the lockout. There was very little FA activity that year. I think in a normal year, he would have received more interest.

[mraynrand]

Finley yes, but I don't see any reason to get rid of James Jones when I know the asking price won't be high. Save the high draft picks for defensive players.

TT just had two defensive drafts. He will pick a WR/TE in the first two rounds, because that guy has to be ready to be a top weapon in 2015 at the latest.

[SkinBasket]

When did James Jone's hands become a strength? Or is the argument that his hands are fine but his brain is damaged? But by golly that fella has a nice smile.

I know he's not as bad as he used to be, but every time he drops a ball, usually an easy one, it all comes flooding back.