Official 2014 Combine Thread

[Joemailman]

There were no Nick Collinses this year as far as speed. 40 times for safeties ran from 4.42-4.71. Out of 17 who ran, Dix and Pryor were 8-9 at 4.58.

[Fritz]

There were no Nick Collinses this year as far as speed. 40 times for safeties ran from 4.42-4.71. Out of 17 who ran, Dix and Pryor were 8-9 at 4.58.

I hope Ha Ha poops the bed in all his drills so he drops to #21.

[3irty1]

I hope Ha Ha poops the bed in all his drills so he drops to #21.

I hope Jerry Jones buys a high priced free agent so he falls.

[Fritz]

Jerruh, like the proverbial blind squirrel, stumbles upon the occasional nut (job) like Dez Bryant, but he whiffs a lot, too. Hopefully Jerruh will sign an FA, like you said, so the Packers have a choice when they get to #21.

If Ha Ha, Pryor, and Nix are all sitting there at #21, I wonder which one Ted would take. Well, Ted would probably trade down four spots while I scream at the television.

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Jerruh, like the proverbial blind squirrel, stumbles upon the occasional nut (job) like Dez Bryant, but he whiffs a lot, too. Hopefully Jerruh will sign an FA, like you said, so the Packers have a choice when they get to #21.

If Ha Ha, Pryor, and Nix are all sitting there at #21, I wonder which one Ted would take. Well, Ted would probably trade down four spots while I scream at the television.

and thus we have a repeat of the jordy nelson draft

cj mosely might slip a bit too, he didn't exactly like up the combine. one mock i saw yesterday had him going #31

as for the combine, i found myself cheering for the guys i liked to look like shit, so the workout freaks move ahead of them on some peoples boards, like is the case every year. you just hope the guy you like looks normal, and doesn't act like a retard or fall down drunk 5 times in the 40

so, mission accomplished as far as i'm concerned. all the guys i like just looked ok, nothing special

the combine is stupid anyways, watch the tape, see if the guys can really play or not. who gives a shit if a center can jump 40 inches or 4 inches off the ground

what do i care what the 330 pound NT can run 40 yards in, he will never run that far at a full sprint again in his career.

one drill forces WR's to throw the ball away as soon as they catch it, what coach wants to see that?

[Joemailman]

Jerruh, like the proverbial blind squirrel, stumbles upon the occasional nut (job) like Dez Bryant, but he whiffs a lot, too. Hopefully Jerruh will sign an FA, like you said, so the Packers have a choice when they get to #21.

If Ha Ha, Pryor, and Nix are all sitting there at #21, I wonder which one Ted would take. Well, Ted would probably trade down four spots while I scream at the television.

If they're all there, I think TT would take one of them. If they're all gone, then I could see TT trade down, and that would be a good move.

[3irty1]

Jerruh, like the proverbial blind squirrel, stumbles upon the occasional nut (job) like Dez Bryant, but he whiffs a lot, too. Hopefully Jerruh will sign an FA, like you said, so the Packers have a choice when they get to #21.

If Ha Ha, Pryor, and Nix are all sitting there at #21, I wonder which one Ted would take. Well, Ted would probably trade down four spots while I scream at the television.

I'm a big fan of TT's trading down and letting the bones decide move. In the instance you described though i'd rather just take Ha Ha. Pryor has about a half year of game play where he was on Ha Ha's level and I wouldn't want to draft him just to find out that he was Atari Bigby circa December 2007.

[Brandon494]

I'm a big fan of TT's trading down and letting the bones decide move. In the instance you described though i'd rather just take Ha Ha. Pryor has about a half year of game play where he was on Ha Ha's level and I wouldn't want to draft him just to find out that he was Atari Bigby circa December 2007.

True and Haha is a far better in coverage, I just know hes going to Dallas though. Pryor is the real deal though, just hasn't proved that he can cover in the system Louisville played.

[3irty1]

True and Haha is a far better in coverage, I just know hes going to Dallas though.

That's my best guess as well.

[Joemailman]

http://www.gbnreport.com/

Some odds and ends:

Notre Dame DE Stephon Tuitt did not particpate in Monday’s workout for defensive linemen after he was diagnosed with a stress fracture in his foot during the medical resting portion of the combine; Tuitt is expected to have surgery within the next week and will require 6-8 weeks recovery time, but the injury is not considered to be that major …

One of the top stories of the first day of on-field workouts at the combine was the miserable day endured by Alabama OT Cyrus Kouandjio, a one-time top 10 prospect, who ran a painfully slow 5.60 40 and looked stiff and sluggish in the other drills. That may not have the worst of his day, though as the NFL Network is reporting that a number of teams dropped his grade dramatically or took him off their boards completely after the team’s physicals revealed that he had an arthritic knee condition.

Meanwhile, the NFL did not permit Washington TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins to participate in the position’s on-field drills on Saturday after medical testing done at the combine revealed he had a pre-existing foot condition and there are concerns he may not be 100% for the Huskies pro day early in April.

[run pMc]

I don't think a sub 4.6 time is that bad for a safety...but I wouldn't want one any slower than 4.6 at FS (assuming Capers plays Burnett at SS). Speed is important but if they're playing centerfield I'd rather they take good angles, don't take false steps or get fooled easily by fakes, etc.

Collins was super athletic and TT's gamble paid off. 4.36 is fast. 11 reps on the bench. 40" vertical, 9'10" broad jump, 6.94 3-cone

http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Nick&l=Collins&i=7072

With all the talent in the draft as well as all the FA's on GB's roster I wouldn't be against TT trading down for extra picks. It depends on who's still there at 21, but I really think there will be a lot of good players available in rounds 2-4, and if Hyde moves to safety they can draft/develop someone from the later rounds instead of starting UDFAs like Banjo or Jennings. I suppose the counter argument is that didn't work out so good for McMillian, but he was no Nick Collins.

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Collins was in the mid 4.3's but he was also a convert. 4.50 is still plenty good. Not enough to move him anywhere much less out of the top 15 IMO. Kenny Vaccaro was taken at 15 last year with a 4.59 so I wouldn't even say Pryor's time is a deal breaker given his obvious playing speed.

do you mean he was a convert from cb?

because he wasn't. he played safety in college, but because of his shortness, people that he would have to be a cb in the pros. so he was projected as a cb, but i'm pretty sure he was a safety all through is college career

[Joemailman]

do you mean he was a convert from cb?

because he wasn't. he played safety in college, but because of his shortness, people that he would have to be a cb in the pros. so he was projected as a cb, but i'm pretty sure he was a safety all through is college career

He started out at LB before moving to Safety. I think the combo of coming from a small school and low Wonderlic score had teams concerned about his ability to quarterback a defense. Thus the projection of him as a CB.

[mraynrand]

I seem to recall LeRoy Butler explaining how it's not some easy transition from cb to safety. The first you are mostly running with someone with your back to the LOS, moving away from it; the other you face the LOS and a good deal of the time you are moving up to and attacking the line. A pretty different set of skills. In some ways LBs and safeties have more in common than corners and safeties.

[pbmax]

Collins couldn't have been that short, was he? He was taller than Tramon and Wood in all the game pictures and in their vacation picture, he was almost as tall as James Jones.

Not sure its a dealbreaker as there are under 6 foot safeties doing quite well in the pros.