2014 Free Agency Rumors and or Speculation

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That's called delivering a message.

Message as follows: "We would rather start 10 players on D than pay you to play."

good message, and very accurate

also, KNOCK THE FUCKING BALL DOWN

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Is Tyson Jackson a lot better than C.J. Wilson? Or Jolly if he can make it back?

i would say no, maybe close to the same

but are we bringing those guys back, and at what price?

[mraynrand]

good message, and very accurate

also, KNOCK THE FUCKING BALL DOWN

some wounds never heal.

Go for it on fourth and one, Sherman!

[HarveyWallbangers]

Who knows Harvey? Verneer seems to be a good ascending young player similar to Shields so it's all a crap shoot. Lord knows personnel people have never been wrong about a player before so I don't consider them to be the end all, be all either. We all read comments from the infamous, "scouts" and "personnel" people around the league that end up being no more right or wrong than the talking heads or people on this board.

True, scouts make mistakes. However, I'm not sold on the idea that Verner is the consensus better player in the eyes of personnel people. I've seen enough quotes about "buyer beware" on him. Most of these FAs are talked about like the are studs and most turn out to be disappointments. We know what we have with Shields (which is good and hopefully gets better). Also, the deal that Shields signed is team friendly. I could careless about what the headline reads on the total years and salary. He got a backloaded deal with a relatively low amount of guaranteed money. He'll be on the team for two years. If he morphs into an elite player or the cap goes up a lot, then his salary won't be so bad. Otherwise, he can be cut with minimal damage.

[Joemailman]

i would say no, maybe close to the same

but are we bringing those guys back, and at what price?

I don't think either one will cost 5 million per year.

[mraynrand]

Is Tyson Jackson a lot better than C.J. Wilson? Or Jolly if he can make it back?

Jackson >> Wilson. But that's not saying much; Ignore Bobble - Wilson=JAG

[mraynrand]

You could get Wilson for less than a roll of tape.

[Joemailman]

Where do the Broncos get all this money from?

Not any really huge contracts after Manning. And they're apparently letting Eric Decker go.

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I don't think either one will cost 5 million per year.

jolly is damaged goods, and who knows if he can come back. he probably can, but he's also over 30 and i believe 1 slip up away for another banisment. s he should be cheaper. but similar players i think

cj wilson, who the hell knows what he is. we've hardly seen him play. and the staff didn't think enough of him last year to even make him a backup. i don't even know if the team would bring him back for the minimum. he got in someones dog house for something

[mraynrand]

cj wilson, who the hell knows what he is. we've hardly seen him play. and the staff didn't think enough of him last year to even make him a backup. i don't even know if the team would bring him back for the minimum. he got in someones dog house for something

something = sucky play

[SMBASS]

True, scouts make mistakes. However, I'm not sold on the idea that Verner is the consensus better player in the eyes of personnel people. I've seen enough quotes about "buyer beware" on him. Most of these FAs are talked about like the are studs and most turn out to be disappointments. We know what we have with Shields (which is good and hopefully gets better). Also, the deal that Shields signed is team friendly. I could careless about what the headline reads on the total years and salary. He got a backloaded deal with a relatively low amount of guaranteed money. He'll be on the team for two years. If he morphs into an elite player or the cap goes up a lot, then his salary won't be so bad. Otherwise, he can be cut with minimal damage.

I'm more than happy that we re-signed Shields Harvey. I felt all along that he was the most important free agent for us to retain and even if it cost a little more than what I thought it might I have no problem with that. It's a much better alternative then letting him walk. I agree that the deal is fairly team friendly and we know what we're getting with Sam. I really haven't seen Verner play very much so as far as whose better between he and Sam I don't have an informed opinion. I just kind of view them the same as they both seem to be young ascending players at a tough and important position. If Sam stays healthy I have no reason to doubt that his play will live up to the contract.

[Bretsky]

Is Tyson Jackson a lot better than C.J. Wilson? Or Jolly if he can make it back?

COME ON MAN

[Bretsky]

I don't think either one will cost 5 million per year.

They won't cost the highest bidder in the NFL 5MIL per year...nor should they...for good reason

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm more than happy that we re-signed Shields Harvey. I felt all along that he was the most important free agent for us to retain and even if it cost a little more than what I thought it might I have no problem with that. It's a much better alternative then letting him walk. I agree that the deal is fairly team friendly and we know what we're getting with Sam. I really haven't seen Verner play very much so as far as whose better between he and Sam I don't have an informed opinion. I just kind of view them the same as they both seem to be young ascending players at a tough and important position. If Sam stays healthy I have no reason to doubt that his play will live up to the contract.

Yeah, I think we are in agreement. Now, I'm hoping TT goes bargain shopping a little earlier than usual.

[Joemailman]

They won't cost the highest bidder in the NFL 5MIL per year...nor should they...for good reason

Neither should Jackson. He's been nothing special despite being a high pick.