2014 Free Agency Rumors and or Speculation

[wist43]

He doesn't hate FAs. He signs his own FAs over other team's FAs. Other teams let their FAs go and replace them with other team's FAs.

Yeah, but what good does it do to resign your own, when you're overpaying them??

No way Brad Jones is worth $4 mil/yr; and no way Hawk is worth $5 mil/yr.

Don't think he's really blundered on anybody else though.

Still, assuming Woodbucks numbers are correct - we have $60 mil/yr invested in a defense that is one of the worst in all of football.

Kind of hard to defend that, wouldn't ya say??

[Rutnstrut]

Yeah, but what good does it do to resign your own, when you're overpaying them??

No way Brad Jones is worth $4 mil/yr; and no way Hawk is worth $5 mil/yr.

Don't think he's really blundered on anybody else though.

Still, assuming Woodbucks numbers are correct - we have $60 mil/yr invested in a defense that is one of the worst in all of football.

Kind of hard to defend that, wouldn't ya say??

Jones isn't worth the vet min, Hawk is easily worth 5. They are paying that worthless sack of shit Raji 4 million, and Hawk is a more solid, higher effort player on his worst day than Raji on his best.

[Smidgeon]

You're saying that the "2" in the 2-4 was D.Jones and Neal with their hands on the ground??

As I said, I missed a good chunk of the season, and have never seen that alignment.

Still, I wouldn't want that alignment. I definitely want Daniels and D. Jones as down linemen in my dreamed of 3-3 subpackage. Throw in a 1-gapping Raji, rotate with Worthy and Perry - and I think you have the makings of a pretty good recipe.

Matthews and Neal standing up as constants in the 3 LB subpackage; and rotate Mulumba and B. Jones based on coverage needs/pass rush needs.

In the base, Pickett, Boyd, Jolly, and CJ Wilson. Of course Wilson will be gone - and who knows who the other DL will be next season... but don't waste Raji, D. Jones, and Perry in base - keep them fresh for pass rushing in subpackages.

If most of us like the front seven personnel, but of course don't like the results we've been getting - doesn't it make sense to look at different ways to maximize the abilities of the players that TT has provided??

I like this personnel/alignment as you described.

[woodbuck27]

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflfreeagency

More CB flux as (Tarell) Brown goes to Raiders


Mar 14 8:45 PM ET ... By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com

Bucking the 49ers offer the 49ers Brown instead agreed to a one-year deal worth $3.5 million with the Oakland Raiders.

The 49ers wanted Tarell Brown back but weren't winning to overpay for him.

The 49ers are now looking for Brown's replacement in Seattle free-agent Walter Thurmond, who has the same agent as Brown and considered comparable in talentto Tarell Brown, is visiting the San Fran 49ers today.

[Smeefers]

I like the 3-3 idea. Awhile back I went into a rant about it. I don't believe that there's no use for the 2-4, but I don't think anyone is suggesting just scrapping it.

I suppose the questions to ask are this:
1. Is anyone here happy with the job Dom has done?
2. Are the players free of blame for the poor defensive showings?
3. What would help this defense more, getting rid of capers or scrapping our players?
4. Does Dom have the ability to turn the D around or does he not have the players to do it?

[bobblehead]

Why does Packers GM Ted Thompson hate free agency?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...141648137.html

Albert Haynesworth, Namdi Asomugha, Adalius Thomas, Chester Mcglockton (2 1st round picks), The "freak" Jevon Kearse, Joe Johnson (hitting close to home), Randel El, Shawn Gilbert (Revis' cousin I think), Larry Brown, Deion Sanders (redskins circuit), Dana Stubblefield ( had to google Redskin busts to remember his name).

that is a good reason to hate FA.

[Bretsky]

There is also good reason to give it a shot; ask Seattle

[3irty1]

There is also good reason to give it a shot; ask Seattle

Do you think we could afford to whiff on Sid Rice? I don't. They were in a unique position to gamble. Wait until their cap catches up with their success and we'll see how cute they get in march.

[call_me_ishmael]

It's frustrating to me because we see teams that most would consider already superior continuing to add players and trying to get better. The Packers, by all accounts, are sitting still and are banking on the development from within. Who is going to step up?

Why don't we ever look at capable guys like Shaun Phillips and his 10 sacks last year on a 1M one-year deal. Why aren't we looking to do stuff like that? Get better but not forfeit the future. It doesn't make any sense to me. It is completely ignoring an entire avenue to get better.

Julius Peppers is going to come cheaper than anybody thinks due to age. This would be an opportunity to take the shot and sign him if they intend to compete for a super bowl.

Sometimes I think the Packers are content with simply making the playoffs and every few years getting a home playoff game. It seems to me that they don't really want to play to win. They just want to be the nice, profitable italian restaurant with good but not great food.

As it stands now... I don't think a single player on the roster has played for another franchise.

[rdanomly]

There is an opportunity cost to bringing in an outside vet. If the FA outperforms the developmental guy already on the roster, then you come out ahead (so to speak) for that season. But it can be at the cost of someone good taking even more time to develop into something better than good.

This is mostly based on an assumption that there isn't a real substitute for playing time in a game as a way of getting better. Practice is important & helps, but what happens on the field matters more.

If you can find a FA that buys into the whole team and can lead (Reggie, Chuck, Harris, etc.), you can bring in those FA vets and they will help make your developmental guys better, while still getting the good performance on the field. I don't know much about personnel, but it does seem that guys like Reggie or Chuck are kinda rare by making other team members better.

It seems like the alternative can often be getting a talented player with motivations other than helping develop the new guy that is going to take your job (talking about the short-term vet signings). And I get that, it isn't the FA's job to train the new guy. But if the team has an internal development approach (like GB), you might be better off letting the new guy take his reps to get better or flame out and know for sure if they can play well for the team.

[KYPack]

It's frustrating to me because we see teams that most would consider already superior continuing to add players and trying to get better. The Packers, by all accounts, are sitting still and are banking on the development from within. Who is going to step up?

Why don't we ever look at capable guys like Shaun Phillips and his 10 sacks last year on a 1M one-year deal. Why aren't we looking to do stuff like that? Get better but not forfeit the future. It doesn't make any sense to me. It is completely ignoring an entire avenue to get better.

Julius Peppers is going to come cheaper than anybody thinks due to age. This would be an opportunity to take the shot and sign him if they intend to compete for a super bowl.

Sometimes I think the Packers are content with simply making the playoffs and every few years getting a home playoff game. It seems to me that they don't really want to play to win. They just want to be the nice, profitable italian restaurant with good but not great food.

As it stands now... I don't think a single player on the roster has played for another franchise.

Winner winner, chicken dinner.

[mraynrand]

Sometimes I think the Packers are content with simply making the playoffs and every few years getting a home playoff game. It seems to me that they don't really want to play to win. They just want to be the nice, profitable italian restaurant with good but not great food.

Winner winner, chicken dinner.

You guys are right. The Packers don't really want to win. The crushing obviousness of the facts you present has finally convinced me.

[mraynrand]

Oh wait...

Julius Peppers is going to come cheaper than anybody thinks due to age. This would be an opportunity to take the shot and sign him if they intend to compete for a super bowl.

Sometimes I think the Packers are content with simply making the playoffs and every few years getting a home playoff game. It seems to me that they don't really want to play to win. They just want to be the nice, profitable italian restaurant with good but not great food.

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php...ppers-a-Packer

[pbmax]

Julius Peppers is going to come cheaper than anybody thinks due to age. This would be an opportunity to take the shot and sign him if they intend to compete for a super bowl.

I have a feeling about this.

[PlantPage55]

There is also good reason to give it a shot; ask Seattle

It wasn't as integral to Seattle's SB as everyone says it was. More than anything, they drafted insanely well for a few years.