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  • #91
    Originally posted by Guiness View Post
    I don't know how they can using snap counts to make the designation, there is a realistic chance it could impact the game on the field. We could see the situation described somewhere else...week 17, a team with no playoff hopes playing a contender, and a call comes down to the coach telling him that his pass catching TE can only be used in-line AND can't be taken out of the game because he's only had 49% of his snaps at the 'TE approved location' this season and his an FA in month or so.

    In my mind, Graham a WR doesn't pass the sniff test. You only have to look at him to know he's not a WR. He lines up wide because it creates mismatches when the D is in nickel...which happens to be the dominant personnel grouping in the NFL for many teams.

    I don't know how they're going to do it. I suspect it is a can of worms the NFL would prefer remains closed.
    If they had a brain between them, the Management Council and NFLPA would split the different. Just as NBA position numbers (1-2-3-4-5) don't due justice to the skills of each player, neither TE nor WR cover Graham or Finley. And a 3-4 OLB is not the same as a 4-3 SAM. Poor planning.
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    • #92
      Silverstein wounds in less than 140 characters.

      Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 13m
      #Packers' worst use of the franchise tag: 2003, DT Cletidus Hunt. Best use: 2004, LT Chad Clifton.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #93
        And the NFL decides Graham is a TE. #GrievanceIncomming
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        • #94
          Cool, a TE who can't block and never even tries to. He is a TE because of his body type?? Then franchise Calvin Johnson cuz dude looks like a TE and lines up wide causing mismatches. In the running game Graham doesn't factor, the saints almost exclusively run away from him. I have never seen him pass block, but am open to saying he might do so once in awhile.

          Graham is a really tall WR by any common sense test. If we are going to say 'big tall mismatch TE' as the "new" TE in the NFL, that is just a fancy word for big WR. Graham has a legit beef in my case, but then again, I am about the only one left in the world who thinks a TE's value comes from his ability to force teams to honor the run (because he can block) but then run up the seams.
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          • #95
            Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
            Well, if you use enough "substances" you can get away without it I guess....if its even true that they don't practice contact, I have my doubts. I think they know you MUST have contact in practice and spread the rumor they don't so other teams will "copy".
            You must have contact in practise. You must be battle (contact ready) for the real games.

            No contact make NO sense.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
              Cool, a TE who can't block and never even tries to. He is a TE because of his body type?? Then franchise Calvin Johnson cuz dude looks like a TE and lines up wide causing mismatches. In the running game Graham doesn't factor, the saints almost exclusively run away from him. I have never seen him pass block, but am open to saying he might do so once in awhile.

              Graham is a really tall WR by any common sense test. If we are going to say 'big tall mismatch TE' as the "new" TE in the NFL, that is just a fancy word for big WR. Graham has a legit beef in my case, but then again, I am about the only one left in the world who thinks a TE's value comes from his ability to force teams to honor the run (because he can block) but then run up the seams.
              I'm with you, he's getting screwed.
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              • #97
                Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                And the NFL decides Graham is a TE. #GrievanceIncomming
                it'll be interesting to see how this plays out and what kind of future impact it has on the TE position

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                • #98
                  Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 31m
                  Teams have a week to lock up FAs-to-be, and #Texans are working to do so with TE Garrett Graham. #Packers will have interest if he’s free
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #99
                    Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 2h
                    MT @TomPelissero: #Gophers DT Ra'Shede Hageman has been working out in Milwaukee with @JJWatt and other #NFL players. http://Instagram.com/p/lFkrfFLr5C/

                    OK, that video better be from Minneapolis or Milwaukee has some explaining to do re: Gopher Banners.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 2h
                      MT @TomPelissero: #Gophers DT Ra'Shede Hageman has been working out in Milwaukee with @JJWatt and other #NFL players. http://Instagram.com/p/lFkrfFLr5C/

                      OK, that video better be from Minneapolis or Milwaukee has some explaining to do re: Gopher Banners.
                      Or Minnesota bought Marquette?
                      Originally posted by 3irty1
                      This is museum quality stupidity.

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                      • ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 8m
                        Lions not expected to sign Brandon Pettigrew before free agency http://wp.me/p14QSB-9qnA
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                        • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          Orakpo gets tagged. Possible DE/OLB issue coming up with tag as well. Might be even harder to parse than Graham since Orakpo is playing in a 3-4 but with his hand on the ground a significant part of the time.
                          This actually had already been done by the league with the tagging of Suggs in ~2010. It created a hybrid position for 3-4 OLBs which is almost as much as a DE to retain.

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                          • Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                            This actually had already been done by the league with the tagging of Suggs in ~2010. It created a hybrid position for 3-4 OLBs which is almost as much as a DE to retain.
                            That was an arbitrator's decision to split the difference between the two tags. From what I can see, that was a one time thing - if another player wanted to be tagged as a hybrid, they'd have to appeal again.

                            I'd forgotten about that, and that's what I'd guess Graham will get, halfway between the two tags. The NFL probably realizes that and they're just going through the motions.
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                            • Tom Pelissero ‏@TomPelissero 1h
                              Cap space "leaders":
                              #Raiders $60M,
                              #Jaguars $50.3M,
                              #Browns $50M,
                              #Dolphins $39.1M,
                              #Colts $38.4M,
                              #Vikings $30.4M,
                              #Packers $29.3M.


                              I need to program a bot that whenever someone posts cap numbers they must explain the baseline used. Because these numbers vary greatly from those published immediately after the cap announcement.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                Tom Pelissero ‏@TomPelissero 1h
                                Cap space "leaders":
                                #Raiders $60M,
                                #Jaguars $50.3M,
                                #Browns $50M,
                                #Dolphins $39.1M,
                                #Colts $38.4M,
                                #Vikings $30.4M,
                                #Packers $29.3M.


                                I need to program a bot that whenever someone posts cap numbers they must explain the baseline used. Because these numbers vary greatly from those published immediately after the cap announcement.
                                how did we lose 6 million almost over night? it was just over 35 million last time i saw it from someone else acouple days ago

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