2014 Free Agency Rumors and or Speculation

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to make things more depressing

TJ ward. one of the better SS in the NFL

4 year 23 million, 14 million "guaranteed". 5.5 million average a year

Morgan Burnett. almost completely worthless piece of shit, who managed to look this year like he should not be an NFL starter

5 year, 26 million dollar deal 8.25 million dollar signing bonus, 1.5 million dollar roster bonus due in 4 days and another 2.4 million in workout bonuses over 4 years. 5.214 million per year average

ward- probowler- 5.5 per year
burnett-worthless POS- 5.214 per year

which is the better deal?

and it is a perfect example of overpaying and overvaluing our own players

[packer4life]

Yeah ask me three ago years I would completely agree with staying out and re-signing your own. But I just don't get it now. So the plan is to sign Nelson and Cobb and maybe two or three of our other free agents back and try to fill all the other holes with the draft again. Idk but doesn't seem like a good idea this year with the NFC as stacked as it is and Rodgers and Matthews both getting older. We might wish we were more aggressive during this time if we look back in five years. Made sense say back in 2010 when we had a roster loaded with talent, our best players being really young, and the cap barely moving. But now?

At least I can sleep well tonight knowing that the big players in day 1 of FA still boast the likes of mike glennon and chad henne at the top of their 2014 QB depth chart.

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so, jarred allens price was too high for the broncos

but they are now the front runners for ware

just how the hell much is allen asking for?

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to make things more depressing

TJ ward. one of the better SS in the NFL

4 year 23 million, 14 million "guaranteed". 5.5 million average a year

Morgan Burnett. almost completely worthless piece of shit, who managed to look this year like he should not be an NFL starter

5 year, 26 million dollar deal 8.25 million dollar signing bonus, 1.5 million dollar roster bonus due in 4 days and another 2.4 million in workout bonuses over 4 years. 5.214 million per year average

ward- probowler- 5.5 per year
burnett-worthless POS- 5.214 per year

which is the better deal?

and it is a perfect example of overpaying and overvaluing our own players

Ward is limited to SS (Burnett can do both) and signed for more money on average and more guaranteed money than Burnett (assuming no more than $5 mil of his "guarantee" is not actually guaranteed).

If as people suggest on the board, that Burnett is better suited to play near the LOS, then Ward was both more expensive and a duplicate skill set.

Could Burnett still stink for 3 years? Possibly, but it doesn't seem likely. Could Ward be overrated on the first day of FA? Absolutely.

No one wins who wins the Spring.

[Packers4Glory]

I'm generally ok if we don't have many needs to try and address those in the draft. But currently our defense has boned ass for 2 straight years. We need answers on the line, inside LB, opposite Clay, and lastly but most importantly we need a safety. This is one of those times we can't do it all in the draft. Some of those answers could come from guys who were injured or in the draft but unless you really really believe Hyde can make the switch to safety I still dont think that's best for next yr. The window to win now is closing. Clay can't stay healthy. Rodgers showed his first crack in the armor last year. Fact is these guys are aging and our best chances at another title are diminishing each season.

The defense and specifically safety has been broken the past 2 years.

Free agency isn't always the answer but it has to be part of the answer at times.

[Joemailman]

TT NEEDS TO SIGN STEVEN JACKSON NOW!!!!!!

Oh wait, that was last year.

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Ward is limited to SS (Burnett can do both) and signed for more money on average and more guaranteed money than Burnett (assuming no more than $5 mil of his "guarantee" is not actually guaranteed).

If as people suggest on the board, that Burnett is better suited to play near the LOS, then Ward was both more expensive and a duplicate skill set.

Could Burnett still stink for 3 years? Possibly, but it doesn't seem likely. Could Ward be overrated on the first day of FA? Absolutely.

No one wins who wins the Spring.

Too bad we didn't sign Ward to play S.S. and then moved Burnett if F.S. if we think he's that interchangeable. Would have made for a pretty formidable defensive backfield with Shields re-signed, T. Will hopefully continuing to recover, Hyde, and Hayward. I honestly don't know if Burnett is all that well suited to play F.S. or not but it couldn't have been any worse than the dog shit we put on the field last year.

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I'm generally ok if we don't have many needs to try and address those in the draft. But currently our defense has boned ass for 2 straight years. We need answers on the line, inside LB, opposite Clay, and lastly but most importantly we need a safety. This is one of those times we can't do it all in the draft. Some of those answers could come from guys who were injured or in the draft but unless you really really believe Hyde can make the switch to safety I still dont think that's best for next yr. The window to win now is closing. Clay can't stay healthy. Rodgers showed his first crack in the armor last year. Fact is these guys are aging and our best chances at another title are diminishing each season.

The defense and specifically safety has been broken the past 2 years.

Free agency isn't always the answer but it has to be part of the answer at times.

Pretty much sums up my feelings about the state of things. I would however say that's it's boned ass for the past three years or basically ever since Collins got hurt. How many years is it ever going to take to find a consistent pass rush compliment to CMIII? Sometimes I just think you have to go with proven players instead of constantly rolling the dice and throwing snake eyes.

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We have to have some other measure of Thompson versus every other GM than "overpaid" own guys, because the scale is tilted beyond useless.

Between them, Morgan Burentt, AJ Hawk and Brad Jones have less guaranteed money than CB Alterraun Verner. Yet the CB I have only heard of in the last 3 weeks is a "steal" and the three Packer defenders are "overpaid".

Those three helped a terrible Packer Defense stay in a playoff game that was completely winnable if the QB, who is apparently not overpaid, could solve a Cover 2 man without waiting for a sack.

Its the first day of FA, every team that signed a player is overpaying. Its a safety they need for Pete's sake. Not a damn Franchise QB. You could get a Pro Bowl safety in Round 3.

Relax.

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Too bad we didn't sign Ward to play S.S. and then moved Burnett if F.S. if we think he's that interchangeable. Would have made for a pretty formidable defensive backfield with Shields re-signed, T. Will hopefully continuing to recover, Hyde, and Hayward. I honestly don't know if Burnett is all that well suited to play F.S. or not but it couldn't have been any worse than the dog shit we put on the field last year.

It might work. But counting this year, that's $34 million in guaranteed money/vested vet salary for a DB group with Ward. Not sure Ted has the budget to make that work.

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byrd is a top 5 safety maybe top 3. and if its a six year deal, then its full of funny money. and theres no way that 28 million "gauranteed" is all signing bonus

The Saints are in a serious transition. I wonder how long that deal will actually keep him there.

[run pMc]

No one wins who wins the Spring.

Normally I'd agree with this, except SEA won last Spring and it didn't hurt them.

I agree re: Ward. It used to be you don't pay a lot for a safety or guard. Ward's a good player but I don't think you want to pair him with Burnett. He'd be an upgrade over M.D.Jennings.
TT will draft a safety and give Hyde, Richardson, et al., a shot.

Verner signed for a LOT less than Shields. WTH?

Saffold was a bad signing.
Houston is a decent player but dumping Peppers is curious. He really underperformed his contract this year, but he would have made nice bookends with Houston. Maybe he'll sign with MIN and stick it to the Bears.

I think the Griffin contract was pricey but he's a decent player...not sure how much more better he'll get, but he can give them 8 sacks and play standing up as an elephant/leo/whatever. Won't be better than Allen. Robison's a decent DE and with Kevin Williams and Guion gone they needed bodies. Linval Joseph is a good pickup, but don't know if he'll produce to the contract. MIN is making some ok moves; if they don't pan out they'll be stuck for a while.

How does Toby Gerhart get signed before MJD and Darren McFadden? James Starks might be happy, but there's not a lot of love for RBs looking for contract #2 or 3.

TT will send out feelers, wait out the big splashers, and sign a few lower-tier FAs. Less risk, preserves the cap for Nelson/Cobb.

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PONDERING THOUGHT

Do players want to come to GB if they are from elsewhere ? If the answer is no....and TT would have to seriously overpay....maybe that's a reason we don't nibble into FA much

Andrew Brandt once said the biggest obstacle to getting players to visit the Packers first is that Thompson would not commit to certain contract parameters before the visit. If possible, the players' agent wants to go to the best offer first, create a reverse car dealership hotbox where the player is about to leave for his next favorite team (think Childress in Minneapolis not being allowed to leave for GB) and then drive a hard bargain to get the higher end of the agreed upon parameters.

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TT NEEDS TO SIGN STEVEN JACKSON NOW!!!!!!

Oh wait, that was last year.

yes and TT's system of only using draft and keeping us the youngest team in the nfl for about a decade now is just perfect

thats why all the other teams do it too

thats why we've one 8 or 9 super bowls in a row. because TT is the smartest man in the world and he's always right

and he walks on water. how dare we ever question the almighty?

[Carolina_Packer]

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