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  • #31
    I'm somewhat ambivalent about this. I think Peppers still has some games left in him. He showed it at times last year, so that is interesting. But, I listen to Chicago sports radio somewhat regularly, and they absolutely blasted Peppers' effort and attitude after most games last season. They especially criticized his effort the last part of the season when they said it was the veterans time to step forward, and he didn't.

    When Peppers came to Chicago, no one questioned his ability/talent, but there were questions about his attitude. I don't see a leader on the Packer "D" who might get Peppers best out of him. If there was a White or Woodson, I would like it more.

    This makes me want Pickett back, who they say has a very strong locker room presence.

    All in all, I like the move, because there is not much downside to it. Could work out great, but if it doesn't, the team can move on without him.
    Last edited by Patler; 03-15-2014, 09:56 AM.

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    • #32
      great line in the pft comment section

      Raji and Peppers? Fat, old, and slow is no way to upgrade your defense, son

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      • #33
        his agent says the deal is worth "UP TO" 30 million over three years

        expect lots of incentives

        his first year take home is 8.5 million, expect some of that to be a signing bonus, so his cap number for this year could be in the 5 million dollar range (give or take a million)

        thats not as bad as it first appeared , and something i might be able to live with

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        • #34
          Seems like a recipe for success here. Year to year rental and where Pepper's isn't expected to be an every down player. Situationally, it's hard not to get excited about him putting his ears back and rushing the QB. I would think that alone would due wonders for his motivation where he doesn't have to grind out two possible run downs and sticking to lane assignment only to finally then be able to pull out all his tricks. If he truly has little left in the tank then it's a low cost risk given the cap money we have.

          Excited to see who this pans out.
          60% of the time it works every time.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Patler View Post
            But, I listen to Chicago sports radio somewhat regularly, and they absolutely blasted Peppers' effort and attitude after most games last season. They especially criticized his effort the last part of the season when they said it was the veterans time to step forward, and he didn't.
            The thing is Patler, I've been listening to Chicago sports radio for 20+ years and I'm still waiting to hear the first intelligent thing come from it. I listen to it purely for the comedic value. 670 The Score never fails or disappoints me when I need a good laugh that's for sure.
            Last edited by SMBASS; 03-15-2014, 11:11 AM.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Patler View Post
              I'm somewhat ambivalent about this. I think Peppers still has some games left in him. He showed it at times last year, so that is interesting. But, I listen to Chicago sports radio somewhat regularly, and they absolutely blasted Peppers' effort and attitude after most games last season. They especially criticized his effort the last part of the season when they said it was the veterans time to step forward, and he didn't.

              When Peppers came to Chicago, no one questioned his ability/talent, but there were questions about his attitude. I don't see a leader on the Packer "D" who might get Peppers best out of him. If there was a White or Woodson, I would like it more.

              This makes me want Pickett back, who they say has a very strong locker room presence.

              All in all, I like the move, because there is not much downside to it. Could work out great, but if it doesn't, the team can move on without him.
              Hopefully winning stokes his fire. When the Bears won the division in 2010 he was a beast. He certainly wasn't lacking effort in the NFCC. Also you know you'll get his best twice a year vs the Bears
              70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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              • #37
                it really isn't a bad gamble to take when we're sitting on so much cap space

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by red View Post
                  his agent says the deal is worth "UP TO" 30 million over three years

                  expect lots of incentives

                  his first year take home is 8.5 million, expect some of that to be a signing bonus, so his cap number for this year could be in the 5 million dollar range (give or take a million)

                  thats not as bad as it first appeared , and something i might be able to live with
                  According to what I saw Red the first year cap number is only around 3.5M so that's a pretty friendly deal.

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                  • #39
                    Yeah at worst I'm gathering this is a 8.5M rental.
                    70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by SMBASS View Post
                      According to what I saw Red the first year cap number is only around 3.5M so that's a pretty friendly deal.
                      oh, then this is a no brainer signing imo

                      good move

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by SMBASS View Post
                        The thing is Patler, I've been listening to Chicago sports radio for 20+ years and I'm still waiting to hear the first intelligent thing come from it. I listen to it purely for the comedic value. 670 The Score never fails to disappoint me when I need a good laugh that's for sure.
                        Ya, there is that, too!

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                        • #42
                          Peppers will be a Leo/Devil/Elephant in a four-man front. It also means Clay will be rushing (mostly) from the offense's right side.

                          First year seems to have a 2.5 bonus and a 1.0 base. If we cut him after the first season, it's 2.5 off the 2015 cap and 2.5 off the 2016 cap and 8.5 total paid.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                            I don't get it - how in the bloody fuck is he going to be used??

                            Seriously, if anyone can enlighten me as to Spraypaintedhair's evil plan - I'm all ears.

                            Since 2-4 is our most often used alignment - is Peppers going to be one of the DT's?? I assume Peppers and Daniels. If that is the case, the flaw in that thinking is that Hawk and B. Jones are still on the field - 2 very substandard players... not to mention the mess at Safety.

                            I would not have signed anyone new to the front 6/7... it's a waste of money. Another player for Spraypaintedhair to misuse.

                            I don't get this at all.
                            It would appear MM is demanding new schemes from Dom? Perhaps the 2-4 is no more. Intriguing. Rumor has it that Dom has also gone bleach blond to shake things up further.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                              Peppers will be a Leo/Devil/Elephant in a four-man front. It also means Clay will be rushing (mostly) from the offense's right side.

                              First year seems to have a 2.5 bonus and a 1.0 base. If we cut him after the first season, it's 2.5 off the 2015 cap and 2.5 off the 2016 cap and 8.5 total paid.
                              no, it would be 5 million off the 2015 cap and nothing off the 2016 cap

                              if he's cut after 2015 then its 2.5 million cap hit in 2016. maybe thats what you ment

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by red View Post
                                no, it would be 5 million off the 2015 cap and nothing off the 2016 cap

                                if he's cut after 2015 then its 2.5 million cap hit in 2016. maybe thats what you ment
                                Teams can designate a contract of a released player to be spread over two caps, just like the old provision for releasing after June 1. Allows teams to release earlier, and let players look sooner.

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