Who Should TT Pick In The 1st Round? - 2.0 - Post FA Version

[Carolina_Packer]

I don't know college players but nothing has happened to make me think safety isn't still the number one need. a stud ilb would be cool. the o will just have to wait.

That's the age old question, isn't it? If you make your draft board and get to #21 and the BAP is not a safety, but perhaps a DB or LB, or even a DT, do you reach a little bit for the safety you need, or try and trade back no further than to where you think you can still fill your need, but still pick up an extra pick? Or do you keep your pick and take the BAP?

[mraynrand]

Why no QB backup for old man Aaron?

He knows he can still play

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It would be a nice problem to have if Ebron and Mosely were there for the picking at #21. What a difficult decision that would be. Is that one of the times you'd trade back, albeit slightly, and still get one of them and pick up an extra pick (assuming things line up of course). I would be happy with either player.

Does anyone here think there is a special talent at FS that you would take ahead of Mosely or Ebron at #21 (of course assuming for the sake of discussion that they are all there when we pick)?

no, no one at all has mentioned that on here

[PlantPage55]

I don't know if I'd say any of the safeties in this class are "special", but I sure do like Pryor's game. He'll miss a tackle here or there, but he makes impact plays. He can cover (he's a smart guy - reads plays and breaks on balls. Doesn't have that late reaction to the play like we saw from Burnett this past season) and loves to help in the run game.

He doesn't have the elite body type or speed that would make a player "special", but I think he's worth that #21 pick, if guys like Mosley and Ebron are gone.

[Carolina_Packer]

i think its a stretch to call it post FA already , and also assume haha will be gone, but not mosely or ebron. i see a lot more mocks that have mosely and ebron as top 20 picks, then i do haha

in order, if we don't sign anyone else

1. haha
2. pryor
3. mosely
4. ebron
5. nix

thats my 5 as of right now, if we take any of those 5, i'm fine. i'f i'm picking, i go in that order

OK, I read more carefully...gotcha! OK, now that I'm a little Red...see what I did there? How can you defend wanting a safety ahead of Mosely or Ebron? Are you saying you think those safeties the the BAP ahead of Mosely or Ebron at #21, or are you strictly looking at team need?

So, if Ebron and Mosely are gone at #21 and Dix and Pryor are sitting right there, and the Packers like them both the same, wouldn't it make sense to try and find a trade partner to move back a little to try and get another pick?

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OK, I read more carefully...gotcha! OK, now that I'm a little Red...see what I did there? How can you defend wanting a safety ahead of Mosely or Ebron? Are you saying you think those safeties the the BAP ahead of Mosely or Ebron at #21, or are you strictly looking at team need?

So, if Ebron and Mosely are gone at #21 and Dix and Pryor are sitting right there, and the Packers like them both the same, wouldn't it make sense to try and find a trade partner to move back a little to try and get another pick?

i like pryor and dix just as much as mosely and ebron, no matter what our needs are. hell no one had ebron as a top 10 talent until the underware olympics. 3 weeks ago there was still a strong debate as to who was the top TE in the draft. i had seen some listing ebron as the #3 TE. now he's all of a sudden an "elite talent that we can't pass on if he somehow falls to us". i'm not buying that he's the guy anyone "has" to take if he's

no, to me, it does not make sense if both are there to trade down a bit. everyone and their mother has the eagles (at #22) taking a safety. they needed 2 starters and maybe 2 backups heading into free agency. they signed malcom jenkins, but they still need to find another starter. if they don't get another free agent safety, the chances are, they take a safety at #22. so if both are there at #21 and someone wants to trade up, you run a huge chance of both being taken at #21 ans 22.

and after that, its a massive drop off in talent to the next group of safeties. not worth the risk when we are in sush desperate need for a safety

[smuggler]

I'm not so sure there is a massive dropoff from Pryor and Dix to Bucannon and Ward. After those four, I do agree though.

[smuggler]

I'm thinking BPA in round 1 and then Bucannon in round 2. It would be nice to have 3 picks in the first two rounds in this draft.

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There are some that think Bucannon is an even better prospect than Pryor and HaHa.

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There are some that think Bucannon is an even better prospect than Pryor and HaHa.

really? i've been following this draft thing for about 6 months now, looked at 100's of mocks and prospect info. i can honestly say i haven't seen anyone ranking him up with the other two, or even close to the big two

the knocks on buchanon are that he's stiff in the hips, misses a lot of tackles, has "tunnel vision", is easily lost on double moves, is bad in zone, and makes a lot of his tackles by lunging at feet

he's big, he's a big hitter, he's got good speed, he can pick the ball off, but he sounds like a massive project, very raw with tons of bad habits

bucannon might turn into a very good player, but it might take 2 or 3 years to get there imo

and we need a safety ready to step in a play from day one

[PlantPage55]

really? i've been following this draft thing for about 6 months now, looked at 100's of mocks and prospect info. i can honestly say i haven't seen anyone ranking him up with the other two, or even close to the big two

Brian Carriveau of Cheesehead TV has him ranked #1, ahead of Pryor and Dix.

Brian Carriveau @BrianCarriveau Mar 13
Bucannon, with Pryor a close No. 2. RT @JoeWiscoSports: @BrianCarriveau Pryor #1 safety then?

I don't like him better than Pryor, but I like him better than Dix.

[pbmax]

He knows he can still play

Its only March, still percolating on it.

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Brian Carriveau of Cheesehead TV has him ranked #1, ahead of Pryor and Dix.



I don't like him better than Pryor, but I like him better than Dix.

so, some random guy who's no different then any of us, but dropped the coin in order to get his own site, likes him better?

another thing, bucannon is almost universally considered a SS, prior is a SS or a FS, dix is a free safety

we need a free safety. actually, i think we need both, however if we keep burnett, he only ever looked serviceable once upon a time when he was the SS to nick collins FS. he has no talent as a FS. so we need to draft a FS and move burnett back to SS, or draft a safety and sign a free agent safety and get burnett right the hell off the field.

either way, we've left ourselves in a position where we can't wait 2 or 3 years for a guy to develop into something decent

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hey mad, maybe you need to start writing some articles and giving your opinions on the main page.

you could be considered a packer expert (since you own your own packer website). you'd be a minor celeb, and you could actually make some coin off this joint for a change

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here's a couple vids of bucannon. if you just look at his highlights he looks impressive, but when you watch all the snaps you see the many mistakes. reminds me a darren sharper. gets an int every game and no one can remember the 3 or 4 missed tackles a game and all the td's he gave up do to blown coverages