Eagles Cut DeSean Jackson

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The actual total of the cash was said to be $20k... The total of all the goods taken from his safe, including the gems, his handgun, et al was 200k

maybe its just because i'm poor

but why does someone need to have $20,000 in pocket money just lying around?

i wouldn't doubt the robbery threw up a giant red flag. $20k in cash, and a hand gun stolen?

to me that looks suspect

[Guiness]

Will be interesting to see where he ends up and how much he gets paid.

It will be. There are supposedly a few teams kicking the tires right now, but they have to be all wondering what the Eagles know that they don't.

PFT is saying a 1yr deal for $6-7M is possible. He was scheduled to make 10.5, did his value drop that much as a result of getting cut by the Eagles? Theoretically, teams should be willing to pay a bit more if they don't have to make a long term commitment.

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If I were a millionaire, I'd probably keep some cash around just incase the IRS went batshit on me for some reason. For all we know, he was going to a teammate's house to play poker.

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Jeff McLane of the Philly Inquirer isn't buying the gang theory. He maintains nothing in the reports was unknown to the Eagles and other NFL teams well before this offseason and that some of his relationships were known on draft day. He thinks its either convenient (or planted) cover for a decision the coach had already made.

That's a tough call. Leaving Jackson to twist in the wind and burning Joel Segal in the process seems like the kind of thing that could backfire.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/252989401.html?authenticate=y

[mraynrand]

maybe its just because i'm poor

but why does someone need to have $20,000 in pocket money just lying around?

i wouldn't doubt the robbery threw up a giant red flag. $20k in cash, and a hand gun stolen?

to me that looks suspect

Some of this may be black culture stuff. A lot of my black friends do transactions in cash. I've asked a few guys and it comes down to not 'trusting the man.' (with good reason, eh). Many don't keep money in banks, stuff is stashed at home, people keep shades drawn all day long so people can't see what they have. Seems like Desean's stash is the same behavior writ large.

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Another party heard from that the gang reports were cover for what the Eagles had already decided to do.

http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2014/03/29/making-sense-desean-move/

He points out the contact by police over the murder investigation was in 2011 and 2012. If it had been a deal breaker, they had a long time to act on it. The other article I linked to gives an anonymous quote that the new "management" of the Eagles didn't know, but Howie Roseman (as GM) and the owner were both with the team at that time. If the knowledge wasn't passed along, that would represent a pretty big failure.

However, Kelly could have decided after a year it wasn't all worth the trouble.

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Another party heard from that the gang reports were cover for what the Eagles had already decided to do.

http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2014/03/29/making-sense-desean-move/

He points out the contact by police over the murder investigation was in 2011 and 2012. If it had been a deal breaker, they had a long time to act on it. The other article I linked to gives an anonymous quote that the new "management" of the Eagles didn't know, but Howie Roseman (as GM) and the owner were both with the team at that time. If the knowledge wasn't passed along, that would represent a pretty big failure.

However, Kelly could have decided after a year it wasn't all worth the trouble.

the hernandez murder spree hadn't happened yet in 2011 and 2012. maybe after the serial killer went to town in NE, the eagles went back and took another look at everything and decided it wasn't worth the risk?

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the hernandez murder spree hadn't happened yet in 2011 and 2012. maybe after the serial killer went to town in NE, the eagles went back and took another look at everything and decided it wasn't worth the risk?

Possible. But its been nine+ months since he was arrested. And it was public knowledge he was neck deep in trouble in Florida as a frosh and had bad associates before his draft and there was speculation concerning that double murder, before he signed his extension, involved people he knew as well. Public knowledge can change the calculus, but given the worst that has happened to him is the loss of $20K in cash and a $100K watch, I'm still leaning football reasons especially since Bretsky was right about his public comments about a redone contract again.

The X and O guys seem to think this is more like the Saints where they don't want to spend All-Pro money on a position they consider fungible in their system.

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24501651/chip-kellys-desean-jackson-question-is-it-hubris-or-the-system

And if it means that elite guard Evan Mathis, who broached the topic of a new contract after out-performing the deal he signed a few years back, is then shopped around the league, well, then that's exactly what is taking place. Mathis's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, has been given permission to talk to teams about a trade, according to league sources, with the Eagles seeking a third-round pick in return. Unlike the Jackson situation, however, there is an expectation that barring trade options the Eagles might still keep Mathis, who is coming off a great season, and whose work ethic and mentality Kelly praised much more effusively on Wednesday, lauding Mathis' “lunch-pail mentality” that Kelly wants to permeate his entire team.

This article is from before the gang speculation and before Jackson's release but it makes me wonder what Kelly wants to spend money on.

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doesn't seem like he was all that popular with his teammates. and these are the same teammates that quickly forgave cooper after dropping a drunken n-bomb. so they're a pretty forgiving bunch

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/

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just listened to the Eagle beat guy; it's very telling no current players are really coming to his defense. He was not dis liked by any means.....but he won't be missed by the players and especially staff either

[Guiness]

So the consensus here seems to be that the Eagles just didn't want him on the team because he was a PITA, and maybe that he was not that important in the system?

I'm not necessarily buying that, mostly because of the timing of the release. It doesn't make sense from a football perspective. There was no reason to release him now, no bonuses due, and with camp not opening for a while, not like he could get hurt at an OTA that would put them on the hook for his salary.

The release did, however, come right after the league meetings. Maybe the non-interest there was to the degree that the Eagles knew there was no chance of trading him, so they decided to cut bait?

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Probably doesn't help that DeSean Jackson owns (at least in part) a record label and employed two vocalists/"artists" who were tried on murder charges.

The employee of my employee is ... ?

"Hey, DeSean, we noticed that you have some degenerates on your payroll. Could you... fire them? No? Oh..."

I don't think he's tied up in anything crooked in the way of Hernandez, I just think they didn't like his attitude. Make no mistake, he's a good player, but he's not elite and never will be. They'll function without him, but I bet they draft two WRs come May!

[woodbuck27]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/is-eagles-concern-over-desean-jackson-gang-related-or-unfair-032914

Was concern over DeSean legit or did Eagles go too far in cutting WR?

Adrian Hasenmayer ... FOX Sports ... MAR 29, 2014 1:52p ET

[mraynrand]

Charles Woodson is inviting Desean to come play for the Raiders. When did he take over as GM?